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I'm not making them feel inferior.

But lets be clear, the only reason to ever wear them is absolutely as part of the extension of the patriarchy. If you want to give in to that fine do it, I get that you can't fight every battle, I just don't want anyone to pretend it's anything else.

+1

There's no call to be an ass to anyone for anything they choose to wear. But that doesn't mean it's verboten to acknowledge that we're coerced into some of those choices by patriarchal bullshit.

Slamming a person for their choices is sometimes bad manners. Valorising the mere act of choosing is often bad feminism.

Women who choose to wear heels are "slutting it up" and "choooosing their choooice" and "are doing so merely as an extension of the patriarchy" but this isn't supposed to make us feel inferior? LOLKAY

Ugh, I typed out a whole thing but that's really the only point I want to make.

Good day and what not.

The 'slutting up' language was unfortunate, but what they're referring to is pretty clear.

The rest tho yeah stand by that. And if that does make you feel inferior that's genuinely a shame, but that doesn't make what's being any less true, and perhaps you should reflect on it.

I SAID GOOD DAY!

~~I have always always wanted to say that in an appropriate context!!!!!~~

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: heels make my ass look fantastic, and my legs look leaner. That's why I wear them, and I don't particularly give a rat's ass if you think I'm supporting some flawed system because of my choice in shoes. I'll buy an extra pair just for you.

Why is that important to you?

(I'll clue you in, it's the patriarchy)

Look, you have points and this could be an interesting discussion but I'm drunk and you seem smug and condescending so I'm just going to go put on my favorite heels and masturbate to a picture of my ex-boyfriend wearing his heels and say I'm like ninety thousand percent sure that even when complete and total equality of the sexes is accomplished high heels will still be a thing and there is no reason to punish women for enjoying them before that goal is attained. High heels might have an unfortunate history but they don't cause sexism and honestly pretending to like or be something you're not for feminism isn't going to help us get there. So like if I want to wear heels in public someday and a guy thinks less of me for it or objectifies me that IS NOT MY OR MY SHOE'S FAULT.

OH AND BY THE WAY HIGH HEELS WERE INVENTED FOR MEN. So like go demand men start wearing them again. Pretty please.

Mmm... John Barrowman's ass looking fantastic... *__*

Yes, someone finally said it! Women were forbidden from wear them, in at least the 17th century, because it was so costly to build dresses with skirts long enough to cover their feet. And because the Sun King didn't want anyone's legs looking better than his, but that's clearly beside the point... right?

Although I read somewhere they think the first iteration was for butchers in ancient Egypt, to avoid walking through the blood and offal of their wares.

And do you seriously not see the irony in telling ALL WOMEN not to do a thing so men will see us as individuals worthy of respect?

Respect isn't something we're going to get once we unlock the mysterious sequence of behavior that fools the menz into thinking we're one of them.

Edited 2013-08-11 01:25 (UTC)

It's funny how much you sound like a conservative christian.

I didn't wear heels until I was 27. I only wear makeup or a bra to job interviews or other similarly high-stakes social occasions. I've never been to any kind of salon. I'm a feminist, yes. But my mother was pretty much the same when it came to avoiding all forms of beautification and she was a traditional Christian stay-at-home mother who never even wore pants, because things like beauty and fashion were just slutty I guess.

Bottom line is, men care way less than you seem to think and do not universally like what you would describe as 'patriarchal' decisions. A lot of men actively prefer dating people who DON'T go in for the beauty stuff, especially hyper-conservative men (not that their opinions matter either). Women dress primarily to express themselves within the scope of womanhood, and 95% of the casual judging that this causes comes from other women, a la What Not To Wear.

no really are you even reading your own comments? You're the one who are saying heels are for sluts. There appear to be, like, zero men on this subthread. All the judging and appropriate-female-standard-setting is coming from you. We seem to not need no dudes to keep us in line! We've got you for that.

Edited 2013-08-11 01:31 (UTC)

May I request the highest of fives? Catty in-fighting among woman is the tool of the patriarchy/threat high heels can only dream of aspiring to.

A lofty two plus three shall be thine. The matriarchy will be verily broken beneath my two-inch wedge heels.

Wanting to feel tall and powerful is "part of the extension of the patriarchy" now? Because that's how high-heeled boots make me feel. I like being tall. I've always liked being tall. Heels make me even taller. Where is the patriarchy?

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