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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-11 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2413 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2413 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You gotta do what you gotta do. I would love for a fanfic I've written to be published. Not that it's a declaration of quality, but getting paid for something you love to do is worthwhile goal.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
You got something novel-length out of a three-minute song. There's nothing wrong with that, or by being inspired by something a lot of people hate, because screw them anyway. The last thing you should be doing is letting other people decide what you like, or what inspires you.

Congrats, OP, and good luck with your writing career.

Full disclosure: I've had one story published, and another has been accepted for publication, where the universe was inspired by a well-known fandom, but I scraped off the serial numbers damn well. Take your inspiration where you get it.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
congratulations on your novel, OP!! that's really exciting.

i don't think you should worry so much about where you got the inspiration from. you'd be surprised how many writers do almost the exact same thing as you. plus, unless you took lines from the song and c/p'd them in there FFN songfic style, i think you're pretty safe.
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[personal profile] solarbaby614 2013-08-11 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Panic at the Disco?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think writing a novel inspired by a song is the same thing as say, E.L. James or Cassandra Clare.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
This. Why is getting inspired by something in order to create a derivation? Pretty much all creativity is inspired by something.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
a) this is no more a "trend" than it has ever been.

b) THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH REJIGGERING YOUR FANFIC INTO AN ORIGINAL NOVEL.

People don't hate Cassie Claire because she adapted her fic into a nove; they hate her because she's a horrible person. And people don't hate 50 Shades of Gray because it used to be Twilight Fanfic, they hate it because it's a shitty example of fanfic.

No art is original. Everything is inspired by something else, and it has ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. Give yourself a break.

Also: Congratulations.

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adding on to the Yup train

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-08-11 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Um... if you're a published author* the fact that you don't know the difference between being inspired by something and plagiarism is frightening.

Unless I'm reading your secret wrong because that's the only concern I can see here.

*Or about to be.
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[personal profile] seventh_seal 2013-08-11 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Everything is inspired by everything, there isn't a single original story left in this world, it's just that some things are copyrighted.
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[personal profile] blueonblue 2013-08-11 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Other people are making money at it, why not you?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I did this too. I just put a little note in the "about the author" saying my story was "inspired by the song 'Blue' by The Birthday Massacre."

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-08-11 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is... a matchstick being lit? A lit torch?]

I recently signed a deal with a publisher for my novel. On the one hand, I'm flipping out, I'm excited, I can't wait to see it be a real thing.

But on the other hand, I feel like I'm lying. It was inspired by a song by a band people love to hate. In a way, it's published fanfic. Shouldn't I feel guilty for feeding into this trend?

Picture related.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if it was inspired by the story in the song's lyrics, I doubt anyone is going to call it fanfic. Maybe if you were writing RPF aboput the band and just switched around names and places, it would be, but you're not (are you? I assume not). There's a long history of songs and poems being catalysts for great works of fiction - don't worry about it, and good luck with the novel.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-08-11 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
people get ideas from stuff that other people make that's how art works that's what drives culture

congrats on getting published
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-08-11 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
So... is it Nickelback?

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[personal profile] thene 2013-08-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
How is it a fanfic? Because it sounds not at all like a fanfic.

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[personal profile] dragonimp 2013-08-11 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
As others have said - that's not fanfic, that's inspiration. Inspiration can come from anything. Even if it's a song that tells a story, to get a whole novel out of it you must have expanded on it quite a bit.

And even if it was fanfic - so? You've made it your own enough to get it published, and that's doing pretty good.

And congrats on the publishing!
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I have only two sentences to say to this...

[personal profile] al28894 2013-08-11 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Go for it, OP. Go for it. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I bet it's a Matchbox 20 song

Don't feel bad

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
As long as you're not doing something that's explicitly taking credit for what's not yours or other such dishonesty it's fine. Sure some people might judge what they consider "lower art' or whatever.

Ignore them.

The way I see it EVERYTHING has a hatedom somewhere. If the song means something to you? That's awesome.

I wrote a fanfic that crossed a canon with my original work. I was terrified of posting it at first because of the off chance that I would get flamed or people would call me "desperate" or "shameless" or a thing I had been working so hard on would be hated by the readers. But I posted it and some people liked it and it became the work that I was most proud of and enjoyed the most.

In short: don't let the fact that there will be 'haters' out there keep you from doing what you love. Because there are people who hate just about everything out there that you can imagine.
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[personal profile] rbhudson 2013-08-12 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you did anything wrong

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
"When I created Weird, the rock star in my novel Espedair Street, I think Fish was at the back of my mind as a wee subliminal influence." -- http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/how-we-met-ian-banks--fish-1089637.html

I don't believe inspiration or influence makes something fanfic. I think there's a real difference between writing something as fanfic, then changing the names for publication, and writing something original even with clear influences. (Not that I necessarily think the first is some unpardonable sin, but I tend to be of the opinion that if it could be done easily it was probably not very good AS FANFIC in the first place.)

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Should I feel shame I know exactly what vid that torch is from? It's Panic! at the Disco - Ready to Go

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