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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-11 03:41 pm

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chardmonster: (Default)

Can I say something?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-11 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never read anything by John Green, so I have no opinion on his stuff personally.

However, an adult author telling teenage readers how much he hates adults worries me. We as a society already have a fucking Peter Pan complex, and a lot of teenagers treat entering adulthood as a form of emotional death. As it is we have a lot of young adults who flee responsibility. I'm not talking about cnot being conventional--I'm talking about being afraid to leave home, convinced that grown-ups will never like them (I'm talking about people who won't try, not people living at home for financial reasons). People who get great anxiety at the mere idea of growing up.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone, you know, told kids that being an adult isn't that bad? I'm 27 and I can tell you that adulthood isn't that bad. Hell, I'm not even as scared of having kids anymore. Adults are more or less as worthwhile as teenagers emotionally and socially. I'm worried this guy is doing actual harm.
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I mean, hell

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-11 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
You can be an adult and still in fandom

Noodle and I were able to afford to go to a con on our own dime. We were allowed to DRINK THERE.

Granted my work is being a teaching assistant, but do you have any idea how awesome it is when people older than you start treating you like an adult with things worth saying? I get to give presentations to people twice my age about stuff they don't know about! And at the same time I get to encourage people younger than me!

Adulthood is awesome.
Edited 2013-08-11 23:24 (UTC)
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secret related!

[personal profile] thene 2013-08-12 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
This is one of my favourite fandomsecrets of all time. I think it was posted in 2009?

Re: I mean, hell

(Anonymous) 2013-08-13 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this comment; I've been having a lot of anxiety re: "growing up" recently and this was all very good to hear.

Re: Can I say something?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-11 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm 27 and I can tell you that adulthood isn't that bad

...yeah...okay...you know there are a lot of things I could say rn but if I had said them to 27-year-old me I would have been punched in the face. So. But IA with what you're saying 100%, chard (haven't read Green either, but I'm sick of seeing recs/quotes/book covers of it all over the Internet). Having your own money to spend on what you want (eh, well, most of the time, bills eat up a lot of it) is pretty much the best gig ever.
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Re: Can I say something?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-12 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm not claiming to be a Parent with a Mortgage or anything. I'm just saying that seventeen year old me could not imagine being 27 year old me.
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Re: Can I say something?

[personal profile] thene 2013-08-12 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
We as a society already have a fucking Peter Pan complex

Oh god, this. Esp as it is the opposite of reality imx - childhood is boring and restricted, adulthood is this magical land where you can do whatever you like so long as you can still pay the rent.

Re: Can I say something?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
lol so true. Having a job and therefore my own money is the best. Also living away from home. Seriously despite various responsibilities, compared to everything before university this is magical.

Re: Can I say something?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
This. I'm 42 and there's times when the ongoing...what's the word I want...adolescentification? Can that be a word? Anyway, the tendency for older and older people to still act and be treated like kids is starting to worry me. Even a lot of people of my own generation don't act the way grownups did when I was a kid (full disclosure: I'm often one of them,) and it gets more pronounced with each generation following us.

And I'm glad to hear you're less scared of having kids. Obviously not everyone needs to have them or is even cut out to have them, and that's fine. But the way pregnancy is being perceived as this horrifying unnatural condition, fetuses being characterized as "parasites" and suchlike, really concerns me sometimes, because it's instilling this unnecessary level of aversion and paranoia about something that we're all the product of and the majority of the time goes down without serious incident.

The trend for women to put it off til later and later ages, without giving any consideration to how much time they'll actually have to spend with their child or what kind of health problems older mothers and their children are more prone to, concerns me too. I can say from experience that losing your mother young is no fun.
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Re: Can I say something?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-12 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I should clarify. I don't feel at all ready to have kids (relax, Noodle) because I don't think I'm at a place where I can properly care for them job-wise. I don't even know what part of the country I'll end up in. I just don't think they'd end my life.

I might be stuck putting it off until my mid-thirties because academia sucks and it's been like this for academic women for a good couple decades.

Re: Can I say something?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen that a lot from my Dad's side of the family. My aunts are older and want to party all the time. It's just...not right.

I agree about childbirth. I don't know where this idea came from that it's a horrible thing and that children are terrible and will suck your life away.
I never thought of a parent not being there for a child; how common is that since women are having children at an older age now?

Also, I think a lot of people need to consider how much they have to give of themselves before having children, just like in a marriage, but at the heart of it you have to be responsible for another life and I don't think my generation or the current one are doing it any favours with this selfish syndrome that's prevalent among the youth.
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Re: Can I say something?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-08-12 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see a selfish syndrome at all! If anything a lot of us are having kids older because we think we need so much to raise kids.

The issue I see isn't a lack of responsibility but rather an underlying anxiety about our possible inadequacy.

Re: Can I say something?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-12 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole reality of how badly parents can fuck up children is something that is actually present in the minds of the current generation of would-be-parents in a way that it plainly wasn't for the generation that had them.

The advances in psychology and its popularization are kind of staggering.

In my parents' generation, having kids was something you did - and you didn't worry about whether you were gonna be a good enough parent or not in any but the maybe most basic material way.