[ SECRET POST #2413 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2413 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

11. http://i.imgur.com/K3L1dHC.png

[kaijinscendre]

John Green got too popular. The internet will turn on anyone/anything for sometimes no reason if they become popular. Take Tom Hiddleston. I have never seen him do anything offensive...and that is the reason some people give to hate him. He is too nice.

I do like that John Green tries to actively fight the accusations against him in intelligent, respectful, and calm ways. That is certainly more than some of the people who attack him deserve.

[deadtree]

the internet can't decide whether it likes Hiddleston or not. Or at least ONTD can't. One day they do, next day they don't. *sigh*

[kaijinscendre]

*whispers* that was the site I was thinking of when I said that. ಠ_ಠ I did not give you permission to enter my thoughts. You gotta fill out a form for that.

[(Anonymous)]

ontd can't decide anything, usually they just go with we hate everything and everyone is racist

[(Anonymous)]

to be fair his post about how he hates adults and that they're the most boring people ever and they only care about paying their mortgage and watching CSI reruns (seriously, CSI reruns?) was pretty dumb. shockingly dumb.

[deadtree]

I don't really know anything about this guy but yeah that sounds really, really ignorant :\ Does anyone have a link to it?

[forgottenjester]

That's not what he said. People apparently can't read.

It's here, here, and here.

He's fine with adults and admires people who can make them interesting and cool in their writing.

He just doesn't like writing about them because it's not interesting for him. That's it.

I don't like writing about evil parents. Does that mean I think bad parents don't exist and that all parents are perfect? No. I just don't think it's interesting. Have I read other people writing fantastic stories with evil parents? Yes. They were great. I admire them. It's just not something I'm going to write about.

That's essentially what he's saying.

But other people took it was too far. "You're insulting your wife!" "You're pushing people to commit suicide!" Like, really? What the fuck?

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

http://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com/post/56296346127/i-dont-like-all-of-my-friends-are-adults-my

mostly I just find it weird and sad because he either doesn't consider himself an adult and believes himself to be some kind of honorary teenager and makes immature generalizations about them to seem cool or he does consider himself an adult and he loathes himself for being one

[forgottenjester]

I have yet to see criticism pointed at him that wasn't the result of someone being unable to read.

That said, you wanna not like him, fine. Don't like him. I don't care. Just make sure your reasons check out. (And seriously your reason could be "I just don't" and I will accept that. It's only when it's based on lies or extreme exaggerations that I'm going to side-eye you. This applies to anyone, not just John Green.)

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is a bunch of copies of a photograph of the writer and videoblogger John Green, some of them stretched or upside down, showing parts like his teeth, his eyes, etc. He is a man with light slightly rosy skin with short light brown hair. He is wearing eyeglasses and smiling, along with some screen-captures of various pieces of text from the internet.]

Text from secret maker:

I don't really like John Green but his hate-dom is starting to bug me more than his fanclub.

Text from screen-capture:

John Green saying he hates adults when he's literally a fucking 35 year old who writes about nymphish 16 year old pixie girls for a living is the most hilariously backward self-hating thing I've seen in forever, like peddle your crap novels harder you greying jackass.

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And some of the implications make me really uncomfortable.

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It's not just sad, it's really fucking creepy.

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(Sorry, I felt like being weird with the visuals to spice things up.)

[elephantinegrace]

Can we just accept that nobody's perfect and even your idols are going to have something that makes you cringe or gnash your teeth?

Can I say something?

[chardmonster]

I've never read anything by John Green, so I have no opinion on his stuff personally.

However, an adult author telling teenage readers how much he hates adults worries me. We as a society already have a fucking Peter Pan complex, and a lot of teenagers treat entering adulthood as a form of emotional death. As it is we have a lot of young adults who flee responsibility. I'm not talking about cnot being conventional--I'm talking about being afraid to leave home, convinced that grown-ups will never like them (I'm talking about people who won't try, not people living at home for financial reasons). People who get great anxiety at the mere idea of growing up.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone, you know, told kids that being an adult isn't that bad? I'm 27 and I can tell you that adulthood isn't that bad. Hell, I'm not even as scared of having kids anymore. Adults are more or less as worthwhile as teenagers emotionally and socially. I'm worried this guy is doing actual harm.

I mean, hell

[chardmonster]

You can be an adult and still in fandom

Noodle and I were able to afford to go to a con on our own dime. We were allowed to DRINK THERE.

Granted my work is being a teaching assistant, but do you have any idea how awesome it is when people older than you start treating you like an adult with things worth saying? I get to give presentations to people twice my age about stuff they don't know about! And at the same time I get to encourage people younger than me!

Adulthood is awesome.

secret related!

[thene]

This is one of my favourite fandomsecrets of all time. I think it was posted in 2009?

Re: I mean, hell

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this comment; I've been having a lot of anxiety re: "growing up" recently and this was all very good to hear.

Re: Can I say something?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm 27 and I can tell you that adulthood isn't that bad

...yeah...okay...you know there are a lot of things I could say rn but if I had said them to 27-year-old me I would have been punched in the face. So. But IA with what you're saying 100%, chard (haven't read Green either, but I'm sick of seeing recs/quotes/book covers of it all over the Internet). Having your own money to spend on what you want (eh, well, most of the time, bills eat up a lot of it) is pretty much the best gig ever.

Re: Can I say something?

[chardmonster]

Hey, I'm not claiming to be a Parent with a Mortgage or anything. I'm just saying that seventeen year old me could not imagine being 27 year old me.

Re: Can I say something?

[thene]

We as a society already have a fucking Peter Pan complex

Oh god, this. Esp as it is the opposite of reality imx - childhood is boring and restricted, adulthood is this magical land where you can do whatever you like so long as you can still pay the rent.

Re: Can I say something?

[(Anonymous)]

lol so true. Having a job and therefore my own money is the best. Also living away from home. Seriously despite various responsibilities, compared to everything before university this is magical.

Re: Can I say something?

[(Anonymous)]

This. I'm 42 and there's times when the ongoing...what's the word I want...adolescentification? Can that be a word? Anyway, the tendency for older and older people to still act and be treated like kids is starting to worry me. Even a lot of people of my own generation don't act the way grownups did when I was a kid (full disclosure: I'm often one of them,) and it gets more pronounced with each generation following us.

And I'm glad to hear you're less scared of having kids. Obviously not everyone needs to have them or is even cut out to have them, and that's fine. But the way pregnancy is being perceived as this horrifying unnatural condition, fetuses being characterized as "parasites" and suchlike, really concerns me sometimes, because it's instilling this unnecessary level of aversion and paranoia about something that we're all the product of and the majority of the time goes down without serious incident.

The trend for women to put it off til later and later ages, without giving any consideration to how much time they'll actually have to spend with their child or what kind of health problems older mothers and their children are more prone to, concerns me too. I can say from experience that losing your mother young is no fun.

[(Anonymous)]

He didn't say he hated adults but that he thought they were boring to write about iirc. He even said afterwards that being an adult is awesome.
I kind of roll my eyes and disagree, but he's not the first YA author to try and say that YA is so popular/fun to write because it's about the most crucial time of discovery and change in people's lives. Implying horrible things about him for expressing a common opinion is gross.

OP, I just want to clarify.

[(Anonymous)]

The text in the little white bubbles are comments on tumblr that I thought were a huge overreaction. The stuff in white on the blue background is me.

[(Anonymous)]

idk who that dude is, but your visuals creep me out so well done :C

[rbhudson]

Fuck the haters, I love him. It's amazing how much I can relate to him. Personally I think I'm too old for his books but I still enjoy them :)