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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-18 03:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2420 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2420 ⌋

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Re: I'm going to be completely honest here...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No. It is very much possible, even if anon plays a LOT, that anon has recently only picked games to play that are easy-mode all around despite having 4 or 5 difficulty settings. These games exist. And they are not rare.

Re: I'm going to be completely honest here...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I'd like to know what all these games are because I'd LOVE to play a game's highest difficulty (out of 5 settings) that really is that easy.

Re: I'm going to be completely honest here...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
There's the new Tomb Raider. The only difficulty in that game would be sluggish QTE's if you play with keys + mouse. Enemy AI and the autosave function are very, very forgiving in that game. You don't even have to spend much thought on saving your ammunition because the special stuff will always be around right when you need it. And that can't be fixed by adjusting the difficulty.

Then you have the last couple of Total Wars before they went Old-School again with Shogun 2. They come with reduced tech trees, less unforgiving AI and, in general, less ways to let you fuck up your own campaign, even before you adjust the difficulty settings.

Or take Dragon Age 2. The only difficulty mode that even requires you to use cross-class combos at all (and that mostly to kill the optional bosses) is nightmare. And that's despite there being 5 (casual, easy, normal, hard and nightmare) modes.

Re: I'm going to be completely honest here...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't played them. Well, except the Dragon Age 2 demo, and I wasn't crazy about the battle system - not because it was hard, but because it felt weird.

Re: I'm going to be completely honest here...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not bad at all, if you don't care about the fact that beating them won't merit you credit from the gamer community.

Like, don't expect any amazing puzzles in the new Tomb Raider, despite the title, and you will get a decent action game with a solid storyline, in which the central relationship is the friendship between two young women. It wasn't nearly as sexist as early reports and unwise words from one of the creators made it out to be.

And despite the dumb combat AI and the reduced tech trees in the more recent titles in the Total War series, building empires is still fun, especially if you delight in the military history of the period you've chosen. It's kinda cool to play with the units and commanders you know from history (if TW is good for one thing, it's offering tons and tons of different, well researched units!). Just don't expect to have to worry about the outcome of a battle unless you are really determined to only fight with a minimal force against a strong opponent.

I admit, I played Dragon Age 2 for the story. The gameplay was rather meh. You could basically click most enemies to death. Like I said, the combat in the game doesn't require much tactics unless you find and fight the optional bosses on nightmare.

I missed the complexity of the combat system of Origins. I missed having a 100 spells to chose from and combine.

da

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
I admit, I played Dragon Age 2 for the story.

Which is pretty much the entire point of DA2. The game mechanics are there to deliver the story. It's not really a good example of the trend you're positing because it's not meant to be the sort of game that requires a lot of skill at gaming to beat. It's effectively a playable movie with occasional combat.

dda

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
But the original Dragon Age WASN'T that way, and in fact was made specifically for people that liked the older style of western RPGs, which focused heavily on tactical combat. The fact that DA2 deemphasized the combat to the point that it was "effectively a playable movie" (although I disagree with that--that's Heavy Rain or Walking Dead, where there's hardly any combat) showed a huge shift in the series, which I think is a valid frustration for people that loved the first game.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS!

You wouldn't call an enthusiast of visual novels a hardcore gamer, would you?

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is. Because it has 5 different difficulty modes that do fucking nothing, when its direct predecessor could boast a very tactical, and therefore on the higher difficulties very challenging and satisfying approach to RPG combat.

The fact that they left out this system in the new game, and replaced it with something so simplified, less interactive, make it part of the trend.


it's not meant to be the sort of game that requires a lot of skill at gaming to beat. It's effectively a playable movie with occasional combat.

This is the problem though, isn't it? The casual players who play for the plot are satisfied. The people who were passionate about the gameplay innovations of the first game are disappointed. Games are getting more cineastic and less challenging regardless of any difficulty modes actually integrated into the game. The game part becomes less and less important.

And gamers blame it on pandering to casual gamers.

Re: I'm going to be completely honest here...

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I'd like to know what all these games are because I'd LOVE to play a game's highest difficulty (out of 5 settings) that really is that easy.

believe me, it might actually not going to give more satisfaction than beating a game that people claim to be hard on a lower difficulty. Gaming fandom is still not going to award you a medal for beating DA2 on hard, because it is considered easy mode by old-school gamers.