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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-19 06:47 pm

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Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, dragon age has far far too much rape in it to be considered a feminist game.

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
wut

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Wut wut? There's massive amount of rape in it. Female City Elf PC, her cousin, The French girl at the stall in the big city, think there were a few wood elves that complained about what the humans had done to them. Lilianna, was raped in her DLC as well.

It was a horrible game from a feminist POV.

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
na

I thought it was realistic for the setting and the rape was never fetishisized. It, along with many other things, showed how deplorable the conditions of their world were and that many people with power were corrupted by it and used it to harm and take advantage of innocent people. It wasn't really all that untrue to real life
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Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2013-08-20 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I felt the same. Like, the bad things that happened to elves truly felt abominable and shameful. People die and it's sad and unfair, but that's life. I also apparently I do not read between the lines so much, because I didn't catch some of those implied rapes (though fair enough, I didn't play Liliana's DLC). Honestly the only one I truly perceived as a (sexual) abuse victim was Fenris.

But yeah, I do not see that portrayal as a "disgusting male power fantasy".

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
da

female city elf wasn't raped but she did get to brutally kick the asses of rapists
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Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-08-20 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
...Leliana was what. *stares at as-yet unplayed DLC*

Why does Bioware hate happiness?

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
da

it was definitely implied, but I don't think they ever flat out said she was in the game. one of the guard's comments definitely alludes to it though

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
sa

if it helps, she then breaks out of prison and is a badass who takes charge of her own life so she wasn't exactly portrayed as a helpless victim

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
If you're referring to Leliana's Song, and thinking of skipping on that basis alone:

It's one of my favourite DLCs. Possibly my favourite. It's fabulous, and shows a heck of a lot about her as a character - and made me go from like/"meh" to loving her. She's a great, strong (if slightly amoral) protagonist. That and the fact that the rape's never explicitly shown - though you can pretty much deduce it - and I'd recommend seeing it through.
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Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-08-20 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
As sad as it is, rape is realistic, especially in a medieval setting, for a darker game. How it is depicted is essential, and I haven't played DA yet (it's in my library waiting its turn), but the inclusion of rape doesn't automatically make it a "male fantasy" or an "un-feminist game"

Re: Feminist Friendly Gaming

(Anonymous) 2013-08-20 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Rape does NOT make a game "not feminist." And Dragon Age portrays rape in one of the most mature ways I've seen. Plus... what exactly do you mean? Some women make non-graphic comments, and City Elf is ALMOST raped (but breaks out and kills her captors, so.)

Dragon Age is seriously one of the best game series out there for its feminism and social progression (and LGBT representation), and I feel very strongly about this. :-/