[ SECRET POST #2429 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2429 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Arrested Development]


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03.
[George R.R. Martin]


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04.
[Bee and PuppyCat]


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05.
[Harry Potter]


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06.
[Resident Evil 6]


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07.
[The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings]


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08.
[Naruto]


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09.
[Jin, Hanzawa Naoki]


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10.
[Neverwinter Nights]


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11.
[Shina Dark]


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12.
[Thomas Gibson from the series Criminal Minds]












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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not invested in any ship happening anymore, other than fervently hoping SasuSaku does not. It would be the affirmation of all the worst in romance tropes. Sorry if you ship it but it's true.

[(Anonymous)]

lol

[(Anonymous)]

lol She's still blushing/calling him Sasuke Kun. There's a good chance it will end with them

[(Anonymous)]

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

Um, the -kun suffix does not mean anything romance-wise -_-

It's a formality just like -san.

You do realize Sakura uses -kun with Gaara. Hell, Lee uses -kun with Naruto, Sasuke, and most boys his age.

It does not mean you like somebody romantically :/

[(Anonymous)]

I have a feeling SasuSaku is going to go the way of the Orochimaru-Tsunade relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

tsunade was never in love with orochimaru, was she?

also sasuke looks like he's getting redeemed, y'all. i see that has fs' panties in a bunch 4 some reason, but it looks like it's heading that way. he's always been kishi's favorite i guess.

[(Anonymous)]

If he's going to be redeemed by realizing that he was wrong and that he actually cares for his comrades after all, then that'd be one thing -- still wouldn't make SasuSaku palatable. If redemption involves him joining the Good Side because that's, like, what his family would have wanted, then no.

[(Anonymous)]

considering he apologized to karin of all people, i'm pretty sure he's going to have a "please forgive me moment"

...although honestly who even knows

[(Anonymous)]

And the fact that Karin went back to him instead of throwing that apology in his face is yet another reason I'm no longer following this series.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty convinced that anyone with Uzumaki blood is autoprogrammed to be mezmerised by Uchiha blood.

[(Anonymous)]

This explains the whole series.

[(Anonymous)]

As a kid Tsunade said to kid!Jiraiya that she would rather go out with Orochimaru than him. I think she did admire Orochimaru as a friend and a scientific colleague before the village found out about his crimes.

As adults the fight with Tsunade Orochimaru and Kabuto was interesting in that it showed Orochimaru's feelings for Tsunade when he went to stab Naruto and ended up spearing Tsunade right through the chest instead. He did seem to have feelings for her. Plus, when Sasuke initially killed Orochimaru the scene with her and Jiraiya in the bar seemed like they both were a little miserable about how things ended up.

[(Anonymous)]

eh that's fairs

i guess i'm just tired of sannin/team 7 parallels lmao

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah me too. Especially since one of the main messages is "you are not doomed by destiny! You can change your fate!" and then everyone falls back into old patterns again and we even have Madara/Hashirama repeating all over again!

[(Anonymous)]

Orochimaru also looks like he is acting on the good side now too.

[(Anonymous)]

As an ex-SasuSaku shipper, I have to agree.

I've never been much of a fan of pairings that are one sided the majority of the story. Seriously, everything is always from Sakura's side. Virtually nothing from Sasuke.

Not to mention it would be disgusting for Sakura to ever forgive those murder attempts. Even if Sasuke never thought of her as a close friend, she was at least a teammate. He was the one that abandoned the village and tried to kill her without hesitation for no good reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Sasuke being around always brings out the worst in Sakura. It's like his entire being is made of some substance that actively reverts character development in her, and since she gets so precious little of it to begin with, I'm in favor of keeping them apart. Naruto, Sakura, and Hinata are all decent people and at this point I don't mind any combination of that happening. Not Sasuke.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never been much of a fan of pairings that are one sided the majority of the story. Seriously, everything is always from Sakura's side. Virtually nothing from Sasuke.

That's really not true tbh. If you go back through part one, there's more active reciprocation/emotional attachment devoted for Sasuke-->Sakura than Sasuke-->Naruto. (Yes I went back and read all of Naruto this summer to take detailed notes on the character relationships. Yes, I know it's very sad.) He very obviously thought of her a close friend and referred to her as one of his precious people. He tried to kill her because she tried to kill him first.

[(Anonymous)]

...I think you're exaggerating quite a bit, and are possibly biased in your reading. He thought of her as a teammate, and toward the end of part one it was approaching close friend, as much as that's possible for someone like him. But all that got shut down quite handsomely when he left the village. Nothing since has seemed to show he cares one iota about his former friends, let alone acknowledges that he hurt them, which should be the first step toward redemption.

[(Anonymous)]

You would think, wouldn't you? Honestly I went into the re-read expecting to find that all the stuff I thought about the character dynamics was off-base, but it really isn't. Part one flies by, like I'm not sure Kishi had any sort of planning laid out for it at all. Like all of the sudden he remembered he had to move the plot along, and suddenly Sasuke was running off before he and Naruto felt like they had remotely earned the degree of obsession Naruto exhibits toward him in part two.

Sasuke also explicitly refers to Sakura as one of his precious people when he tells Naruto to take her and run when they face Gaara post Chuunin exam, so I'm not really sure what you mean by that or "as much as that's possible for someone like him." I'm not Sasuke's biggest fan in part two, and a lot of what he's done is fucked up but in part one he was a pretty harmless kid. Was he a jerk at times, yes. So was Naruto, and so was Sakura. But he was overall a standard kid, albeit one with a severely fucked up past, and he exhibited genuine affection for both of them in the time before he left the village.

Nothing since has seemed to show he cares one iota about his former friends, let alone acknowledges that he hurt them, which should be the first step toward redemption.

He's fought with/defended both of them during this current battle so far. I highly doubt that Kishi is gonna take time out for an extensive heart to heart during, but like someone mentioned earlier he apologized to Karin, who has been consistent comic relief. Not expecting that Kishi will present a real apology from him to Sakura/Naruto/Kakashi at some point is laughable.

[(Anonymous)]

What? Sasuke was not a harmless kid. He was severely anti-social and had an obsession with killing his one remaining relative whose very appearance drove him into murderous, unthinking rage. These are all obvious signs of deep psychological trauma evidently left upon him by his experience in the massacre, and they worsened throughout part one due to plot factors, ultimately resulting in his defection. It's not like all this came out of nowhere, his psychological base was already damn shaky and he wasn't okay even before all the mindfuck. Compare him at 8 years old, and when he appeared in the series.

So the reason I said Sakura was a close friend to him as much as was possible is because he didn't have close friends the way a normal person would. He came to see them as precious people that needed to be protected, but he wasn't able to be emotionally open to them the way one should proceed in a normal, healthy friendship. Sakura was always very emotionally giving (to Sasuke), so even back then their relationship was one-sided. His relationship with Naruto was more balanced because they just saw each other as rivals, but then Naruto had socialization issues himself anyway.

This is mostly on Kishimoto, but that apology to Karin was a joke and I'm disgusted it played out the way it did. She had even less reason to forgive him than his old friends. And here's the thing, it doesn't actually matter what Kishi has Sasuke say or do at this point if he never so much even has a moment of clarity to acknowledge to himself that he did wrong. All his moments of self-revelation have been about his brother and his clan, none whatsoever having to do with the people he actually hurt. The first step toward making amends is accepting that your actions were harmful, you can't just skip that and go straight for empty apologies, though I have no doubt Kishi will. That's why no apology from Sasuke will mean anything substantial, nor should it change any of the problematic aspects of his relationship with Sakura and the others.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're putting way too much into this. Severely anti-social? He wasn't incapable of interacting with people or forming connections, he was just averse to it. he at least talked to Sakura a bit about the massacre, encouraged her and hung out/joked with her and Naruto. He had issues but you're lending some sort of over complexity to it, honestly. (Naruto's socialization issues, wtf? He's supposed to be loud and brash, that' just a shonen hero thing.)

And here's the thing, it doesn't actually matter what Kishi has Sasuke say or do at this point if he never so much even has a moment of clarity to acknowledge to himself that he did wrong.

Is that not an extremely necessary part of any serious apology? I should think that would go unstated with "I assume he'll offer them an apology at some point."

[(Anonymous)]

And what is the qualitative difference between being incapable of forming social connections and being averse to it when this state of being isn't natural to your personality and was brought about by trauma? The bottom line is, he wasn't like that when his family was around, and now, he is. That isn't normal. His defrosting interactions with his teammates came about gradually -- they're signs of his improving psyche as a result of, you know, finally starting to have people to care about again. Until it all came to a crashing halt.

Yes, I'm sure Naruto was just the typical loud brash shounen hero and didn't have any issues growing up ostracized and despised. This utter lack of issues is why he could claim to empathize with the likes of Gaara, who let's hope no one will argue was just a standard kid. I mean, what is the entire basis of his argument that Sasuke should stay when they had their Valley of End showdown? That he knew what if it felt like to be so alone and having so much hatred inside you.

I hope you're kidding because yes, being earnest in your intention and accepting you did wrong is absolutely essential to a serious apology. In real life, even! That's why tropes like "My God, What Have I Done" exist: to facilitate well-written redemption arcs.

[(Anonymous)]

This, absolutely all of this.