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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-13 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2446 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2446 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[How To Train Your Dragon]


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[Fall Out Boy's "The Phoenix"]


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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
A place to live isn't a fucking luxury.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Living on your own in this economy, without a fucking job? Yes it is.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Only because of people like you, sweetie.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh ho, this should be interesting. What kind of person do you think I am, exactly?

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
A troll. Or an idiot. Not sure which because you're doing awfully great at being both.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - Why do you say that. Anon speaks only the truth. You may need to share living quarters with family or friends or roomies if you can't afford a place of your own.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
And according to them if you can't find a roommate and have no friends or family to move in with, you deserve to be out on the street because you're poor so fuck you.

So yes, troll or idiot. Possibly both.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
da

They didn't say a person deserved to have that happen, just when you lack a job this is something that will happen. So best to get to job hunting all the time and save your money for bond/rent rather than buying figurines. Especially if you see someone being poor, constantly complaining about it but to all evidence not trying to fix it.


and yes, renting your own apartment is a luxury. I can't wait for the day I no longer need housemates or sharehousing to make ends meet

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a luxury when it's your only viable option because you have nowhere else to go in a neighborhood full of gangbangers.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, you're an idiot. Yes it is. You don't get your own private household without all the downsides of roommates/assisted living/bad neighborhoods until you can afford to have that household. What is so hard to understand about this?

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Because not everyone has the option of living with roommates or family. What's so hard for you to understand about that?

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bleed_peroxide: Allen Walker | D.Gray-Man (Default)

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[personal profile] bleed_peroxide 2013-09-14 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to play devil's advocate here: if a person's parents kicked them out, or in general aren't very supportive of their child, and their friends aren't in any position to really be able to help them, then the situation becomes complicated.
deaalmon: Luna (Default)

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[personal profile] deaalmon 2013-09-14 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It does become complicated, but there are almost always options (finding roommates through non-friend sources, renting a room from someone which is a lot cheaper than a full apartment, government assistance, subsidized housing). None of those options are ideal, but they're there for a reason.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's obvious you've never had to use one of those options on very short notice. "Not ideal" doesn't even begin to describe it.
bleed_peroxide: Allen Walker | D.Gray-Man (Default)

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[personal profile] bleed_peroxide 2013-09-14 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I've been lucky enough to where I've never had to do these things on short notice, but that doesn't mean that others haven't been in those ~not ideal~ circumstances. Shit happens.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, anon up in that thread apparently has been and was raped by said roommate, but that doesn't seem to be important because "at least they had a choice!"

I can't with the people here sometimes.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-09-14 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
By yourself. A place to live by yourself is.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Not if it's the only option available to you. Which it is for many people who don't have parents or friends they can move in with, and can't find a roommate who isn't a drug dealer.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-09-14 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Um. I live in a city with horrific drug crime rates, right outside a city who is known as the methiest city of my state and I've managed to find roommates who are not drug dealers or even users more than once. I'm not going to say I am one hundred percent sure your scenario is an impossible one but it's pretty damn unlikely.

Yes, searching for and living with roommates is not fun, blows, and can be nerve-wracking finding and sharing living quarters with strangers but it doesn't make you under-privileged if you have to. Sure it's all kinds of unfair that someone might have to put in a lot of extra work to end up with something other than their ideal living situation but sucking it up, making sacrifices, and being financially responsible is just a thing some people have to do. Having a private living space is not an unalienable right.

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
If you can afford to be picky enough to screen roommates at all, you're not in as bad shape financially as you think.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-09-14 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I am so confused as to what you are trying to say? People can be so poor they can't afford to screen roommates and that explains why they don't have roommates and ask other people to cover their rent continuously? Can't they screen roommates while borrowing money off other people until they find a safe roommate?

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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, people can be that poor. I was one of them. When your boss cuts your hours by almost 30% and you're told "rent in two weeks or you're out on the street," you don't have time to screen roommates. And I didn't have anyone I could borrow from. I ended up with a roommate whom I found out the hard way was a drug-pusher and convicted rapist.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-09-14 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly think maybe you're arguing a different thing? I understand there are people so poor they cannot afford rent, I was one was one of the people who ended up not being able to afford rent even with roommates and ended up in a runaway shelter. I do not understand how being poor explains away having to rely on money from other people and somehow not being able to use that time to find a roommate.

I'm pretty sure everyone is talking about people who can't afford their rent on a regular basis because they aren't living within their means and repeatedly ask other people to help. I said I don't understand how that can be a reasonably continuous situation. Typically when an adult's financial situation changes drastically they have to reevaluate and cut back. It is not offensive to suggest getting a roommate is a solution. When it comes down to it people are not entitled to live on their own.

There are always going to be extremes and exceptions. I didn't really get the impression that was what people were talking about. You yourself said you didn't have anyone to borrow from and you were in exceptional, unexpected circumstances. The subject (as I understood it anyway) was about people not wanting to stop lending money to a habitual asker who hasn't taken basic actions to bring their finances to a manageable level.

eta: I stand by saying that if someone is borrowing money regularly they should be able to understand they do not have the ability to live independently and that they also have time to find a roommate.
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(Anonymous) 2013-09-14 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
This is what I'm arguing with:

"*tbh, I don't really get how people have the audacity to ask strangers to pay their rent for them. It's a regular, monthly payment and if you haven't got your finances together, that is your fault"

So no, I'm not arguing a different thing. Anon opened the door with that one.

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[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-09-14 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Agree to disagree because I read someone "not having their finances together" as them being irresponsible or short sighted, not someone being unable to handle unexpected, circumstances beyond their control and genuinely needing help.

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