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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-26 06:41 pm

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Re: Sorry for ranting about my awful job all the time!!!

[personal profile] saku 2013-09-26 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
i think the teacher taking john into a room to do his work with him is a good idea. i don't know anything else about john but as someone who was always ostracised and abused in school, i really wish i had a teacher (or anybody, really) who cared enough about my wellbeing and my education to sit down with me and talk me through my work. learning in a standard classroom is not for everybody, and as a result a lot of kids get left behind at varying levels.

personally i think that you, as a teaching assistant, should be taking notes. it sounds to me like you would have done something different in your teacher's shoes - maybe forced john to sit there the whole day without any feedback except the occasional negative reminder. a lot of teachers do this, in particular if they have other students to work with and need to move on. but in moving on without a student you are stunting their ability to learn and grow. take as much time as it needs. mix up your teaching habits and style to accommodate each and every student. john might have been acting out or whatever but that doesn't mean he should be denied the help he needs or prefers. as long as he's actually learning then do what it takes, imo.

you also really shouldn't be talking shit about your students, at best it's rude and at worst it's completely fucked up. jesus christ.

listen. being a teacher does not pay well, so if you're planning on teaching, do it because you have a passion for relaying information to others and helping them grow into productive, knowledgeable human beings. making fun of your students and ignoring their specific educational needs are two of many things that shitty teachers do.

op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-27 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I totally understand this, but there comes a point where you can't keep compromising and giving in to your students. Especially since they didn't even do the worksheet. He just read the story to him and told him he could do it tomorrow. The same thing he told John yesterday. So John got away with doing no work and was rewarded by being allowed to watch a movie.

Re: op

(Anonymous) 2013-09-27 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
So John got away with doing no work and was rewarded by being allowed to watch a movie.

Yes, this. The kid's learning alright - just not the things you want him to be learning. Way to reward bad behavior.
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Re: op

[personal profile] saku 2013-09-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
oh, i thought you meant they went through the work together. that's different then, my apologies. idk, there might be a personal reason john is unwilling to do work, but there's only so much you can do

Re: Sorry for ranting about my awful job all the time!!!

(Anonymous) 2013-09-27 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Disagree; venting and shit-talking about terrible people you have to be around for work purposes is normal. It's how you go back the next day and treat them like civilized humans. I've found it's people who are all ~no drama~, conflict=bad, gotta never talk negative about anything, who cause the most toxic social trainwrecks over time.

Also, part of being a good teacher is having some authority over your class. When I was at school, my least favourite teachers were often wet blankets who'd let everyone fuck around so I'd never be able to learn anything interesting and never felt rewarded for all the effort I was putting in. You're not accommodating 'each and every student' if you're devoting all your effort to coddling a couple of jackasses; you're just wasting all the other kids' time.
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Re: Sorry for ranting about my awful job all the time!!!

[personal profile] saku 2013-09-27 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
venting is one thing; openly mocking people is really shitty though. there are constructive ways to blow off steam or talk about problems.

authority i agree with, but your primary job as a teacher is to teach. i think teachers need to keep this in mind. if there's a student who legitimately doesn't want to do work and is being entirely unreasonable after numerous diplomatic efforts then yeah, forget them. not everybody is open to being taught in certain environments and there's only so much you can do about that. accommodating everybody doesn't mean you need to leave others hanging though. time management really helps here. from my experience, students who have difficulty learning in a classroom setting (or simply don't want to) do a lot better in smaller groups, or one-on-one. there's no need to take up other students' class time on these people; there are more convenient and productive ways to teach those who are more or less harder to teach.