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When I read all this I'm really happy that homeschooling and spanking kids is forbidden in my country. I especially love the "loving family and the spanking once a while" in one sentence.

1. I feel sorry for the children of your country who can't be homeschooled. There are a lot of kids going through hell right now when they shouldn't have to be.

2. I always use the same example when it comes to a spanking argument. A kid takes the thimble of a blind tailor and puts it into a fire until it's nice and hot, then leaves it where the tailor can reach for it. This actually happened. Once. Because when his folks heard about it he got the spanking of a lifetime and learned that that was not something anyone should do.

I'm happy that is isn't allowed (as in many other countries) and I would not trust a parent (if he/she isn't a trained teacher in all the relevant school subjects) to teach the children all the required things (especially in the higher classes with difficult subject matter).
For example: to study at universities here you are required to have learned two foreign languages for the majority of the uni courses.
When you are homeschooled and your parents can't teach you a foreign language what do you do then?

It's forbidden in my country too!

Homeschooling wouldn't really work here because you probably wouldn't get a job without the official school certificates - also the foreign languages are a MUST too here, especially if you want a better paying/"higher" job. Fluent English is pretty much the standard and at least another foreign language is more than welcome/often requirement in certain jobs.

(I'm not the anon you replied to)

Just so you know, I was homeschooled and I turned out OK, as did all the other homeschooled people I know. For some kids homeschooing is actually much better than public school.

I will agree with you that spanking is horrible, though. And also the anon you're replying to is coming off as a total jerk.

Eh. When a bunch of people are calling me an idiotic monstrous horrible person, being seen as a jerk does not bother me too much.

No one used the words 'idiotic', 'monstrous', or 'horrible' person at all or in reference to you except you.

Oh, does it offend you that I put all the accusations into one idea? Look up at the thread and see how many people have acted like the devil himself for having a belief I stand by.

I'm not offended. I'm appalled by your sense of martyrdom, however.

You have an opinion. Most of us don't agree with you. If you're too thin-skinned to be disagreed with by strangers on the internet, you probably shouldn't've posred to an unpopular opinions thread.

DA

Homeschooling is no better or worse than any other form of education, in my opinion. The homeschooled girl I knew when I was a kid exceptionally smart, and though her mother was a strict Christian, she seemed to want her kids to be well-rounded and was accepting of me, a godless heathen. Then you have people who do a shitty job of it. It depends on why they're homeschooling, and the education they themselves have. I'm not sure I'd want to live in a place where that wasn't allowed.

Homeschooling is a crap-shoot. Sometimes, it's amazing and the kid really benefits from it. Other times, it's code for "playing basketball all day." A lot of the kids I've seen that were homeschooled were a least 1 to 2 years behind in their subjects but I've seen some that were a year or two ahead. The problem is that it really depends on the kid's parents... and a lot of them just aren't capable of teaching their kids.

The problem with the word "spanking" is that the definition varies so wildly between users. It could mean a swat but it might be a beating.

You might be referring to unschooling, which can be surprisingly effective if done right. That's where you let kids do what they want and read a lot. Sometimes it means playing basketball all day.

As for how they keep up with other kids there ages: that's one of the main reasons homeschooling exists. So that kids don't have to all fit into one pre-described standard. I mean, some kids just can't read until their 10 but nothing's really wrong with them. In school they get left behind and labeled special needs. At home they learn visually or orally and when they learn, they learn. No pressure.

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I taught school for a couple of years between undergrad and grad school. ^_^

...I was definitely referring to homeschooling. (Their parents were so upset that they weren't the stars of my classroom. I had to listen to so many howling renditions of 'But I taught them myself!)

No one left my classroom without being on grade level and able to read, write, and do arithmetic. (And there were several kids who couldn't do any of that when they walked through the door.) It involved appealing to as many learning styles as possible and keeping a close eye on everyone's advancement and a *lot* of conversations with parents but it's certainly doable. It always offends my sensibilities to hear about teachers who aren't as worried about making sure that the kid will be successful in their classroom and all the ones that come afterwards. (I'm not calling you a liar because I know it happens but it irks me beyond words.)

But, that said, as a child I attended a school where everyone progressed at their own pace. You moved up when the headmaster said that you were ready. There was a girl in my class who was in the third year for a year and a half and in the fourth year for the same amount of time. But she was good to go when she finally made it to the fifth grade. I honestly think that more schools should be run along those lines, even though it's probably only feasible in tiny village schools.

Homeschooling really depends on the situation and the reasoning behind it.

I was only homeschooled after I was threatened with a gun at school and the administration did nothing about it. It was right around the time of Columbine and a couple of other school shootings, and I was scared to death. Of course, if that happened now I'm sure it'd be a huge deal and the kid who did it would've been expelled immediately but for reasons I still can't figure out, they refused to take any disciplinary action against him whatsoever. At the time my mom thought homeschooling was the best alternative, and we turned out fine. My brother and I both went on to college and have good jobs now.

Maybe I'll piss a few people off saying this, but in my experience when homeschooling is an issue it's because religion is involved. My parents didn't take us out of school to shelter us from society or keep us from interacting with people who didn't share their views, they took us out of school because they were worried about our safety. We still had friends, went to social events, always scored at least a grade or two ahead when we'd take the annual tests required by the state, and I got to graduate early at 16.

So homeschooling can work out really well in some cases. I do completely agree about spanking, though. There's no justification for physically striking another person in my opinion.

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