[ SECRET POST #2479 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2479 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 018 secrets from Secret Submission Post #354.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t570/CourtesyGriever/ConfusedVale.png

[(Anonymous)]

I also thought "Yay, something is actually happening" - and then they basically retconned it in the newest episode.

Also, I'm not sure I'm happy where the last episode was going - I get the feeling they're trying to include some fanon things about Cecil into the canon and I really wouldn't like that.

[kaijinscendre]

I enjoyed the last episode as well, but I was confused by the lack of connection with Episode 32...I expected changes but it was the same stuff.

[greenvelvetcake]

Eh, I figured Strex Corp to be a company that slowly insinuates itself, taking over things bit by bit until it's too late - not one big, loud takeover.

[(Anonymous)]

Right? After all the HOMG STREXCORPS, all we got was a commercial and other than that the same old, same old? Huh. I wish it was just a case of "it's really subtle and we won't notice the real changes until after it's too late" but I fear it's just another case of not quite thought-through, not so brilliant writing.

[erinptah]

Their pacing is normally really slow when you're listening in realtime.

The episode One Year Later, where Carlos and Cecil have their big dramatic emotional breakthrough, is followed by Faceless Old Woman, which doesn't so much as mention Carlos' name. I imagine that was frustrating for people who had already waited two weeks, and now had to wait two more for any payoff on the relationship. But in terms of content, it's only a half-hour break from the cliffhanger before picking back up again.

No reason to think the Strex plot won't unfold at the same speed, and be solidly built up along the way.

[crazed_delusion]

They didn't really Retcon it, since there was a Strexcorp commercial.

I think this brother/mirror thing is a build up that will cross-over with the Strexcorp line.

[forgottenjester]

...All this secret reminds me of is that I need to listen to the latest episode that came out yesterday.

Oh, and yeah, I agree.

[erinptah]

...Are you sure people don't like the episode, just because they're freaked out by it?

I mean, I'm freaked out, upset, and worried -- because characters I like appear to be under serious threat. That doesn't mean I'm not also happy, excited, and interested, because it's a dramatic storytelling choice and I look forward to seeing where it goes. It's the normal way to react when a story is good, dramatic, and features characters you like.

What threat?

[insanenoodlyguy]

Threat of being better?

You are entirely too negative. There's a pill for that.

Believe in a smiling god! :D

This fandom is shit

[insanenoodlyguy]

They (they being the tumblr fandom) are mostly overemotional girls who want this whole thing to just be Cecil gushing endlessly about Carlos for 95% of each episode and not liking anything to happen to their gay babies.

Re: This fandom is shit

[crazed_delusion]

Don't forget everyone needs to be a POC as well or it's whitewashing.

Re: This fandom is shit

[(Anonymous)]

*snort* whitewashing

I wish people would actually look up the meaning of that word. I once heard that a Tumblr attacked people for having "too many" white OCs. On a 'whitewashing' blog.

Too easy

[insanenoodlyguy]

I was going with the less talked about reason the fandom is crap.

But yeah, this too.

So glad that one shirt didn't win. Feel bad for the artist though, who was legit good. But there shouldn't be such a clearly defined canon. Glad the winner is a lot more vague. (but I wanted Date Night!)

Re: This fandom is shit

[blunderbuss]

And they have to be a very DARK-SKINNED POC, otherwise it's still whitewashing and colorism no matter how many lighter skinned POC get pissed off by that implication. Either color Carlos a certain swatch color or GTFO!

Re: This fandom is shit

[(Anonymous)]

I loved how many of them flipped their shit because of last episode's "here, have Cecil's full name". There was a lot of "What do you mean, his name's not Cecil Baldwin???!!!" bawwing going on.

Guess what, kids, this is the time where you learn about not confusing an actor with his role.

Re: This fandom is shit

[forgottenjester]

I was only upset because I would have to change something like 300+ tags.

But then I found an automatic tag changer and stopped caring.

Re: This fandom is shit

[flipthefrog.livejournal.com]

Not gonna lie, my immediate reaction was "FUCK YES NOT BALDWIN." With a fist pump and everything. Goddamn I am still so stupid happy about that.

Re: This fandom is shit

[starphotographs]

Hee, his full name was one of my favorite parts of that episode! I just... Gershwin. Good dorky middle name or best dorky middle name? :D

Re: This fandom is shit

[ninety6tears]

Sorry but I am kind of disappointed to have to get used to a new last name after the 'cast has been going for more than a year? Gotta love how there's a lot of smug backlash about it when I never saw anyone insisting Baldwin wasn't necessarily his last name before. Since they gave him the same first name, it followed logically enough that the character had the same last nime (like, you know, Stephen Colbert, real actors do this, it's not like we're a bunch of dumbasses with no grip on reality).

Has no one bothered to consider there might be some Night Vale-esque explanation for his name changing, with whatever weird transformation happened to Cecil? This was actually my immediate assumption and now I'm just minorly annoyed and confused by the whole thing.

Re: This fandom is shit

[(Anonymous)]

LOL that's great. Now if only this would apply to most other fandoms...

Re: This fandom is shit

[(Anonymous)]

You hit the nail on the head there, my friend. The majority of the WTNV fandom is just all about teh ghey. The fandom is total shit.

[juliamon]

minor tangent first: I would argue that Station Management was actually our first "real" cliffhanger... and the episode following it acted as though it never happened. And yet everyone seems to be up in arms that Yellow Helicopters just pulled the same thing? If anything, I think it's a lot more telling that there was a Strex message in Cassette. Since the episodes air in a semblance of real time, it's been two weeks since the Strex incident so it's completely reasonable that things have been worked out and settled down by now. I look forward to other subtle bits of Strex slipping in here and there.

Back to the subject at hand. Most of the fandom seems to follow the show purely for the gay. They don't care about the rest of the town, they just want their adorable babies to be okay and still together. Surely you saw the shitstorm that came down after the "chews his food a little more loudly than is polite" line?

I enjoyed the new episode not because of the (possible?) Cecil backstory we got, but rather the information on the town we got from it (ie. the advent of Big Rico's, the history of NVCR). And I feel like one of the few who did. There's no "wrong way" to enjoy something but I feel like a huge chunk of the fandom is missing the point of the show as a whole.

[erinptah]

It always baffles me when people combine "caring about the gay" and "missing the point of the show." This isn't an incidental thing, it isn't a canon friendship where the queer subtext is only potential, it isn't a couple of minor characters thrown together based on that one scene where they spoke. It's the main romance of the series, involving the central character and one of the other main characters, and has been explicitly developing since the first episode.

Even more so when you put "missing the point of the show" with "not enjoying this for the backstory of the main character." If you take out all the stuff about Cecil's personal life, romantic or not, that's half the show gone -- and the other half wouldn't seem nearly so compelling without the contrast.

[elaminator]

I love every episode, whether it's just 'some weird shit happens that is tied up at the end of the episode' or whether it deals with an overarching plot. The StrexCorp twist was exciting and I look forward to seeing where the show goes with it, but I'm in no hurry for a 'big payoff' either.

(Plus, like greenvelvetcake said, I think StrexCorp is sneakier than that. I wouldn't expect too much from them right away; I'm sure there's plenty going on 'behind the scenes' in Night Vale, but we might not hear about it right away.)

Unrelated: All these Night Vale secrets are making me want Night Vale icons. Except...er...podcast. Someone should do quote icons.