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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-24 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2487 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2487 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Vincent D'Onofrio in "Adventures in Babysitting"]


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03.
[Legend of Korra]


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[The Little Mermaid]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Moby Dick]


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[American Horror Story]


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[Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart]


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[Supernatural]


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[Yogscast]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


















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vethica: (Default)

[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-24 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Attraction is not the same as behavior.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And if your attraction is to the emotional availability of a person once you're in a relationship? Because plenty of people have that.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-24 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand what this means.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It means your attraction informs your behavior.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-24 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Often. But they are not the same.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And what is your point, exactly? You think this is somehow unusual enough to warrant a whole category to itself? Yeah some people are attracted to others without acting on it due to personality/habits/conventions, but lots of others just plain don't when there's no emotion involved. It's about as new as dirt.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-24 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, that's possible. But being sexually attracted to people is not the same as having sex with people. Is my point.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see, you're all about "replies that totally are irrelevant to original comments" in this thread.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
No, they just don't feel like holding your hand and taking you step-by-step through the discovery of why you're wrong.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Go for it, then. The burden of proof is on the claimant.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
OR AYRT is spot on already but their opposite number (and you) can't bear to admit they aren't a speshul, oh-so-persecuted snoflake.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-10-24 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
This was part of your original comment.

Don't want to fuck someone unless there's an emotional connection involved? We don't need a whole new term for that, it's called, "I'm not into casual sex."

This is what I said.

But being sexually attracted to people is not the same as having sex with people. Is my point.

I thought the connection made sense, but if you didn't understand what I was going for, I can try to explain it more in-depth.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-24 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't want to do X" and especially "I'm not into X" can be interpreted as "I have no interest in X" or "X leaves me cold" - this is the attraction part. Oftentimes this implies "I don't do X" - this is the behavior that follows. Then there are the people who behave the same way -- they "don't do X" -- despite having an interest a.k.a. attraction. Both normal and common.

Flip this around and we have "I am interested into X but I don't do X (for whatever reason)", which is what you're talking about. Where X is "to fuck someone".

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-25 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Being attracted to someone, even sexually attracted, doesn't mean you will actually WANT to have sex with them, or try to do so. It's just a physical/psychological response.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I disagree that there's a vast disconnect between the two that requires emphasis. Being sexually attracted to someone means you can at least entertain the notion of having sex with them and the thought doesn't repulse you. In layman's term, this is phrased as "wanting to have sex with someone", it's where this desire leads that comprises the behavior portion. People are just too hung up on what they feel and what they do.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but plenty of people can entertain the notion of having sex with someone while not actually wanting to have sex with them--for a variety of reasons, like their being in a committed relationship already, or knowing that they have a disastrous personality and would be bad for you.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, but those are rational or ethical reasons that are separate from desire. If those existing limitations didn't exist, you'd go for it.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
except...no?

are you everyone on this planet?

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-25 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, but even "not being repulsed" is a far cry from "actively seeking it out".

I don't think people are hung up on it. I think it's a very, very important distinction.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Important enough to warrant a label on par with sexual orientation? Hardly. If you are sexually attracted, you are sexually attracted -- it means if the conditions are right, you'd want to have sex. People believing that they are especially unique due to their lack of interest in seeking out sex, despite feeling attraction, are just looking for a reason to feel special.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-25 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Not necessarily. I pretty much agree with you, I just think it's something people need to understand since sexual attraction =/= having sex but people are acting like it's the same thing.

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
No, I would say that being sexually attracted to someone means that you can look at them and experience some degree of sexual arousal or stimulation by doing so. It doesn't mean you have to actively contemplate engaging in a sex act with them. There are plenty of people whose images I can look at and find sexually appealing, but who I don't contemplate a hypothetical sexual encounter with, and wouldn't wish to.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're conflating sexual attraction with the rational acknowledgement of a person's sex appeal. You can accept someone's attractive qualities without being sexually attracted, but if you can't even entertain the idea that sexual contact would be appealing, where does the arousal come from?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-25 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
where does the arousal come from?

That's the "attraction" part.

Maybe we're talking about two different things?

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da

(Anonymous) 2013-10-25 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
and they're too busy trying to give themselves catchy and 'kewl' labels for behaviors, thoughts and impulses that are old as fucking dirt just so they can attain special snowflake status and be solitary and alone in their existential crisis.

/single emo tear