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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-07 06:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2501


⌈ Secret Post #2501 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[American Horror Story]


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[Beverly Hills, 90210]


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[Homeland]


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[Skins]


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[Signs]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Epic Rap Battles of History]


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[Mass Effect]


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[orange is the new black]


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[The Swapper]


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[Rune Factory 4]


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[Skyrim]












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chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's like being an atheist but you also mutter smugly about nonatheists and post pictures about how awesome science is while not bothering to actually understand science under the mistaken assumption that science = atheism. It also means being angry that Reddit took r/atheism off the default list because it got so weird and offensive.

It means thinking The Oatmeal is really great.

Also feminist has only become a bad word among stupid people.
Edited 2013-11-08 00:05 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It means this, and it also means thinking that being religious inherently means that someone is stupid, and that stupidity or cowardice are the only reasons why someone would be religious, and it means refusing to learn anything at all about religion, and it means constantly making belligerent, passive-aggressive comments anytime the topic of religion is even tangentially mentioned, and actively insulting anyone who is religious.

It's really annoying even as an atheist.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Athiest here, and....um, yeah. I used to be *exactly* like this. (Don't forget: thinking that religion is just a crutch and that anyone who is religious is clearly defective in some way and is just using religion to fill in for their own personal failings.) Thankfully, I had some experiences that shoved in my face just how ugly, ignorant and bigoted those attitudes were; but I still wish I could go back in time and smack myself upside the head for my own stupidity.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
as someone who is religious, I just wanted to say thank you for sharing that.

I've had both fellow Christians and atheists tell me that i'm not a real Christian, that i should 'convert' to atheism, etc. because i'm queer.

with the Christians, as much as they anger me, i can understand where they're coming from, because i was there once. but with the atheists - some of whom are queer themselves - that just baffles me. it's like, why the fuck do they care? why should they tell me what to believe?

it's made me wary of both Christians and atheists. but thank you for reminding me that there are many people out there who are not bigoted - but often we don't scream as loudly as the people who are.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
NAYR

Sorry to hear that, Nonnie, hugs if you want *hugs* my family was in general understanding/doesn't consider it their businesd when I came out to them, and one half of them are Christians and the other half are Muslims. But I know I'm lucky in that respect.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
"Also feminist has only become a bad word among stupid people."

Shouldn't "atheist" be interchangeable with "feminist" here?
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
They're never interchangeable.

But I think I see what you mean. There's a difference between "bad word" and "oh dear this is going to get annoying" and then rolling your eyes.

I have zero problem with atheism, but I'm going to assume that people I barely know bringing it up in casual conversation are going to be really annoying and I'm going to try to get away from them at the party. I feel the same way about people I barely know who really want to make sure I know they're a feminist when, motherfucker, I'm a women's historian and we're all grad students at this party this is what I assumed about you what kind of bullshit are you going to start going on about
Edited 2013-11-08 00:21 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Wait what did The Oatmeal do that was not-great, or that makes it iffy to think of him as great?

I unfollowed him on Twitter because he made a pedophilia joke about altar boys, and I'm so so so done with people who make those jokes, but I didn't think anyone had made much of a stink about that. I always thought his actual comics were funny so I'm curious.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's just... stupid. It's pandering bullshit engineered to make people feel smart rather than actually informing them. I'm talking about the comics about Facts, not the comics about his dog.
Edited 2013-11-08 00:22 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see. I always thought they tended more toward lolrandom than actually trying to be informative, so I guess that flew over my head.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I was about to get confused, then noticed he makes comics about other things aside from dogs and shrimps

Well still a bit confused. I thought it was just cute comics about random facts (and his dog)?
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[personal profile] riddian 2013-11-08 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt that way about the Columbus Day one. I did find most of it informative--I could have told you Columbus was not a great guy I didn't know any of the details. But then at the end he was like, "So let's celebrate some other white guy instead!!" and I felt a little uncomfortable about that.

Especially since there's something of a movement to celebrate it as "Native Peoples Day" which I feel would be much more fitting and would have liked to see him spread the word about, but apparently he didn't bother to find out about it. Well-meaning, but short-sighted.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have footnotes, but I read one cartoon from him that was blatantly anti-feminist, and felt so revolted I just couldn't bring myself to be a fan anymore.

It's a bit like, if you're Australian, Leunig is a beloved cartoonist, and one day he made a cartoon comparing lesbian mothers to Nazis, and I just can't like him any more, I loathe the very sound of his name.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
> Also feminist has only become a bad word among stupid people.

You're doing the exact same thing, ironically.

Literally the only definition of "atheist" is someone who does not believe in a higher power. You're doing the same as the people who think most feminists are "feminazis". You're going off stereotypes and a small-subset of atheists.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I figured one of you would show up eventually.

Tell me: what about what I wrote made you think I dislike atheists or think the majority of atheists are in "New Atheism?"
Edited 2013-11-08 00:30 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-08 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
what

I'm not seeing that in her comment at all
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-11-08 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
You remember that really wanky thread on the second page a few pages where, where I linked (now got deleted) to a response to chard where one of the "haters" attacked not in a "your trolling fuck off" sort of way, but instead attacked her on a completely unrelated to anything trolly and perfectly reasonable statement, which is usually how such anon's operate?

Here's another example of that bullshit.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I actually disagree, though thanks for saying that.

The "New Atheists" I'm talking about do this all the time. This person might not have any other problems with me. They'd be directing this at anyone saying the same thing. Again, it's one of the reasons r/atheism got taken off the default list.

It's like Pavlov's dog but with minor complaints instead of bells.