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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-15 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2509 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2509 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hyakki Yakoushou]


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[Ender's Game]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[The Thundermans]


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10. http://i.imgur.com/EhCuInV.png
[linked because not sure if underage porn or what (it's Pokemon)]


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[Brave 10]


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[Skins]


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16. [WARNING for eating disorders, self-harm]

[Demi Lovato]


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17. [WARNING for suicide]



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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-11-16 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Either way I'd still hit it.

http://www.3drealms.com/duke-nukem-forever.jpg
Edited 2013-11-16 00:37 (UTC)
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-11-16 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
The first thing I thought of:

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[personal profile] reading_corsair 2013-11-16 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know this series, but going by the picture from the anime and the fact that he lifts his shirt to 'prove he's a man', I'd say he's male.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
He's male if he says he's male, whether he has a vagina or not.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Well, then we're saying he probably doesn't have a vagina.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Man =/= male.
Man refers to gender, male refers to sex.
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[personal profile] caffeine_buzz 2013-11-16 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
The shirt-lifting scene is actually fairly questionable (we the audience don't see what's under it and the characters don't give a definitive reaction one way or the other). There's also a whole chapter where a character traps Kamanosuke into an illusion that he's 'Princess Yuri' and we get things like this/ I tend to subscribe to the 'has a penis' theory myself, but it's definitely meant to be ambiguous in the series.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the show, but the dude's super attractive. Is it worth watching?
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[personal profile] caffeine_buzz 2013-11-16 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's Brave10. The manga's not bad (and pretty much all the dudes are super attractive. Same for the ladies, actually. Everyone is dressed completely improbably for the time period, but that's kinda par for the course). I wouldn't really recommend the anime, though. It does a really poor job of condensing the story down and ends up pretty badly paced, especially near the end, and didn't seem to have a very high budget so the animation's kinda cruddy.
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[personal profile] vethica 2013-11-16 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Gotcha, thanks. Manga it is! o/

A question about trans...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna put myself out there to ask an ignorant question. Are people born with a trans mindset or is the trans mindset a symptom of the rejection of societal gender norms? I'm asking because a lot of trans people I've met had some really sexist reasons as to why they wanted to become the opposite sex, like "people treat me better now that I'm a convincing man/woman. My personality fits". Wouldn't the problem ultimately be society's intolerance of blurring gender norms then? Admittedly, if my child ever felt they were trans this is probably one of the only things I fear I will fail in as a parent. I fiercely reject "girls can have penises and boys can have a vagina!". I don't understand it YET but I want to understand it.

my 2cents

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's one True Trans Experience. It varies. Some know from birth that something's not right, some realize it later. For some it's about how society views and treats you, for some it's about the level of comfort in their own body.

Yeah, some of it is a problem with society's idea of gender roles, but I don't think that completely invalidates the experience. It's still about being comfortable in your body and in society.

And I think for some people it's a really really hard thing to try and explain when it's basically just this mess of emotions, so maybe they try and explain that "my personality is more male/female" because that's the only way they know how to verbalize it.

Why do you reject "girls can have penises and boys can have a vagina"? Do you reject the idea that sex and gender are different things?

Re: my 2cents

(Anonymous) 2013-11-17 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
"And I think for some people it's a really really hard thing to try and explain when it's basically just this mess of emotions, so maybe they try and explain that "my personality is more male/female" because that's the only way they know how to verbalize it."

Yeah, I suppose that makes sense.

"Why do you reject "girls can have penises and boys can have a vagina"? Do you reject the idea that sex and gender are different things?"

No, it just strikes me as a very sexist thing to say that someone thinks like a man/woman, IDK. I'm interested in knowing what was the IT MOMEMNT that made people know they were in the wrong gender. The few times I was brave enough to ask this, I got replies like "Idk I guess I kind of hated/loved a lot of girly things growing up". A couple of times I got less clear answers like "I just didn't feel right in my own gender". For some reason, those seemed like more acceptable answers to me. That's kinda terrible because I'm mentality invalidating the ones that I find sexist.

TW disphoria, imagined self-harm Re: A question about trans...

[personal profile] ex_mrs260625 2013-11-16 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about gender norms, it's about what gender you actually are. There has been at least one study (small sample size) that showed trans women's brains shared structural features with cis women's brains, rather than with cis men's brains. (I don't know if there's been any follow-up or what it's shown. I've been out of the loop for years.)

I get the impression that some people just don't have a very strong sense of gender -- they can't put themselves in the shoes of someone experiencing gender disphoria because they wouldn't be super-distressed to find themselves in the body of the opposite sex. (My mom had a lot of trouble on this front when I came out.)

During my teen years, I tried to protect myself from my gender dysphoria by basically pretending I didn't exist from clavicle to mid-thigh. I wished for breast cancer so I would have an excuse to get rid of the rather massive boobs my chest had decided to sport. My belief was that if I cut them off myself with a kitchen knife, I would be categorized as mentally ill and would be ineligible for a sex change. (I don't know if I actually would have been, but in retrospect it's certainly a good thing I didn't -- surgery was less painful and the result more aesthetically pleasing than that would have been!)

When I was able to change my name and have the boobs taken off, and even more so as I got some testosterone in my system and got a nice beard going, people stopped mistakenly assuming I was a woman, and started correctly assuming I was a man. I no longer felt like I was lying to people just by letting them look at me, so I was able to interact more. I became more confident and happy because I wasn't agonized by trying to distance myself from my body and the lies it was telling to other people.

It's been almost 20 years since I started the process of getting a sex change. I've connected to my body, it's really mine and it's comfortable to live in. I exist from clavicle to mid-thigh in the same way I exist in my head and shoulders and legs and arms. I haven't had the whole works done, and if I had a magic wand I'd make some required changes, but it's good enough for most purposes. (Dating is still something I avoid, but I'm generally content.)

I've actually become much less uptight about stereotypically feminine behaviour and hobbies than I was when I was a teen and young adult. I love to cook, to knit, I'm learning to sew, and I'm definitely on the effeminate side.

As for rejecting "girls can have penises and boys can have a vagina" -- if you really want to be more supportive and understanding, keep this to yourself. Think it all you want, but expressing it is cruel.

Re: TW disphoria, imagined self-harm Re: A question about trans...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-17 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for sharing your emotional experience with me as it helps me understand the trans experience better. I don't know if I hurt you with my comment at the end but if I did, I'm truly sorry! I'm trying to learn about this more.

Re: A question about trans...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
I fiercely reject "girls can have penises and boys can have a vagina!".

Congrats on being an asshole I guess?

Re: A question about trans...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-17 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
After re-reading what I wrote, I realized that that was a very close minded thing to say. When I said that I meant it in the most technical of terms. Like someone may mentally be a man or woman but until they go through surgery/hormone therapy they are still technically whatever gender they are. Just to clarify, I would NEVER call a trans person whatever gender they were transitioning from. I always say "he" when she feels like a he even if she is still technically a she. It's just very confusing to me right now, sorry.

Re: A question about trans...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, thanks for asking, because I feel exactly the same.
And I did witness the change of someone who identified as girl to trans man. I didn't change my opinion.
There are probably cases of dysmorphophobia in the middle, but most reasonings seem very sexist to me. If you feel the need to undergo a sex change to wear a skirt, be interested in knitting or to act daring instead of a shy flower, it's not that you're in the wrong body. It's because your society doesn't allow it or because you are convinced that these are purely male or female traits.

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Re: A question about trans...

[personal profile] caecilia 2013-11-16 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
If I may recommend some reading material.

Luna will change your life.

She's Not There is an excellent memoir of a transwoman.

Autostraddle has two awesome trans writers, Annika and Sebastian, who have written several articles and Q&As.

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Re: A question about trans...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Every human being is born with a certain sex. That sex is: XX, XY, XYY, XXY, XXX, XXXY and X0.

Every person is also born with certain physical features. Those features are: penis, vagina and ambiguous genitalia.

When they grow up, msot people experience certain changes during puberty: some will grow beards, some will grow breasts, some will grow wide hips.

When most people think "girl" and "boy", what usually comes up in their mind is girl = a person with XX chromosomes, vagina, breasts, wide hips and no beard, and boy=a person with XY chromosomes, penis, no breasts and slim hips.

But when you look around you, you'll see that even though this might be the case for the majority of people, there's a pretty large group of people who just don't fit this description. Sometimes they're not even aware of it! And yet everyone is forced to fit themselves into these two (sometimes three) very narrow boxes.

That's why we have this mysterious thing called "gender identity". It's hard to define what it is and where it comes from, but knowing all the different variations between the human beings, can we really decide for other people what is the "proper" box they must fit in?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-16 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
With a name like "Kamanosuke" how can there be any doubt he's male?
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[personal profile] caffeine_buzz 2013-11-16 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
He's technically based on a character with that name-- the series is Brave10 and is loosed based on the legend of the Sanada Ten Braves from the Warring States period of Japanese history. The majority of the character names are taken from that. And considering the character, it's perfectly likely that he wasn't born with that name and gave it to himself.

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[personal profile] caffeine_buzz 2013-11-16 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Since a lot of people don't seem to be familiar with Brave 10, some explanation: during the manga scene shown in the sceret, when he lifts his shirt the audience doesn't see what's under it and it's left kinda ambiguous from the cast reactions (Yukimura is clearly interested but is standing behind Kamanosuke and misses it). The anime scene involves Saizou asking if Kamanosuke should really be using the men's bath and causing him to storm off to bathe in the river instead. A later bit involves him fighting a bad guy whose specialty involves illusions, who traps Kamanosuke into an illusionary world where he thinks he's "Princess Yuri" and wears dresses and seems to identify as female (the manga scene where he wakes up involves him in the bath but always either shows him strategically covered in suds or from behind. Though there is one panel where there definitely seems to be *ahem* something between his legs). The series tends to play around with the "Is he or isn't he?" thing a lot. That said, I agree with the OP that Kamanosuke clearly identifies as male and refering to him as 'she' would be incorrect.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2013-11-16 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. Read a random chapter of this thing, and it's now in my reading list. Thanks for the inadvertent(?) rec o/