[ SECRET POST #2511 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2511 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hobbit]


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03.
[The Fly 1986]


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04.
[Slightly Damned]


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05.
[Game Of Thrones]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[NCIS]


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08.
[Roosterteeth]


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09.
[Mass Effect]
[Art: The Shepard Siblings, by bigcman321]


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10.
[Easy A]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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12.
[Sir David Attenborough]


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[New Tricks]


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[Hannibal (NBC)]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 078 secrets from Secret Submission Post #359.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I really, really dislike Allie Brosh. I think she glorifies and trades on her irresponsibility and destructiveness. Not just in the childhood stories, though a lot of those read as an adult trying to justify their past bad behavior to themselves by framing it as funny.
Now, before anyone says anything, I'll just get this out of the way: yes, I know, she has depression, and yes, I understand what that entails. I have clinical depression, which has been severe in the past, though currently mostly in remission due to medication.

And that's a lot of the problem. It really bothers me that someone so publicly lazy and scattered has kind of been declared the unofficial poster girl for depression. Looking back through her blog, there's a pattern of disorganization, dysfunction, irresponsibility, and inaction that suggests she's kind of a mess even when not depressed. Which isn't an issue in and of itself, because people like that get depression too, anyone can. But I feel like her acting as a sort of de-facto spokesperson for the illness reinforces a lot of negative stereotypes about depression, and depressed women in particular. Not all of us fit in that lazy, scatterbrained, "hot mess" mold. In fact, most of us certainly DON'T. We clean our houses and go to the bank and generally function as responsible human beings, unless we're, you know, sick. So it kind of bothers me that her being so public about both her depression and her bad behavior outside of it might confirm some people's beliefs that it's a character flaw, or endemic to one's personality, and thus someone going through a depressive episode just has to try harder and get their shit together. You also get less of a sense for how depression can completely wreck a person when you're reading an account from someone who wasn't particularly functional in the first place.

And I feel like the only depressed person who didn't think either of her posts were particularly insightful. Ask any depressed person, and we'll tell you that it's about a lack of feeling, pleasure, and volition, not a double helping of sadness. Hell, you probably wouldn't have to, because it's pretty common knowledge. And I know a lot of people don't know what depression really is, and it's helpful to have first-hand descriptions, but I feel like there are so many better and more clearly stated accounts out there, so I don't get why everyone is acting like she's given this amazing new information to the world instead of just building on what everyone else was already saying.

Meh. She's allowed to have a blog and write about whatever she wants, but I don't like how those posts exploded and brought her in to the spotlight, and I don't like how people paint them as being really educational and consciousness-raising when all they do is regurgitate what everyone else is saying, and even implicitly reinforce bad stereotypes. Rant over.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with this.

The story that everybody points to simplifies depression and the way out of depression, way too much.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

How is she the spokesperson? Because a bunch of people on tumblr reblogged one her comics? She isnt really that popular. And even the people who know of hyperbole and a half have no idea who the artist is.

And of course she makes her stupid/bad childhood behavior funny. Who the fuck wants to read boring comics about going to the store?

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

She has a book out. It was on display at Barnes and Noble last week.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[lunabee34]

She was interviewed on NPR. That seems like mainstream attention to me.

Tessa Stone is making money.

[insanenoodlyguy]

I have to buy the Namco high game. Already did. But I wish she wasn't going to profit from that. People who take money and don't give a product, whom years later have never so much as offered a public apology let alone actual remuneration... they shouldn't work again.

Re: Tessa Stone is making money.

[(Anonymous)]

wrong thread?

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

"paint them as being really educational and consciousness-raising"

I think that's the problem, both she and her readers are doing this. What she did was take a personal story about her personal experience with depression and present it like The Depression Experience(tm), then people reacted like "now I know what Depression Is Like!" and ran off to enlighten their friends.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't like her comics when I first saw them and I like them even less now. Mostly because they don't overlap with my experiences whatsoever and because they were all over tumblr as "how depression really is"*.
I tumblr savior'd her but things still come through and it's, sigh.



*for her maybe, but I dislike the blanket statements

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Also, as a possible unpopular opinion.

She still lives with her parents? Isn't she a grown adult? Granted right now she needs all their support and perhaps it makes sense financially, but hasn't she at least tried to get a job? Just seems odd

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[sootyowl]

She doesn't categorize depression to me, but it's her battle with depression and her stories of how she has dealt with it. There have been many voices about depression and more famous voices who have spoken out about it. In the long run, I don't think her stories will affect the populous outside the net. She's an internet sensation.

She writes a comedic comic. If it didn't have comedic elements to it, it wouldn't have caught on in the way that it did. Comedy is also away people can express horrible moments in their life. Work through their issues.

As a person who has suffered with depression, I have felt a double heaping of sadness and well as all lack of aforementioned feelings. It all depends on the person.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

It's interesting, because while I've never suffered from depression, the impression I always had is that depression is more like a kind of... grayness in life, a sort of lethargy that saps joy from things and the desire to really get out and do stuff.

At least I'll know to stay away from this blog,though...

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, well, the only thing that really overlapped with my experience was the "I don't exactly want to die, I just want to not exist", but the rest? Not so much. Doesn't mean there aren't people who feel like that. Also doesn't mean people with a different experience aren't allowed to share stories/comics etc. about it themselves.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[dreemyweird]

I get that representation and stuff are good things, but her protagonist/alter ego is unlikeable to the point of being repulsive. Since the protagonist is the sole focus of her work, I cannot read anything of what she does without getting this weird hate-tinkling in my chest.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

eh, I'm a depressed woman and I really like her posts. It's pretty spot-on for my own experience and the experience of a lot of my friends who have dealt with depression. So I'm sorry that you feel like she's some big mess of misinformation, but just because it doesn't ring true with you doesn't mean it's not true at all.

And honestly I've never seen people post them as educational or as some kind of spokesperson for mental illness. I get the feeling that maybe you're over reacting because it's one of those things. You know, those things that you don't like and seems to pop up everywhere and the more you see it the more you don't like it until it builds into this mess of overreacting until you make a long rant on an anonymous community. One of those things.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Your impression of her is based off of hyperbolic cartoons she makes to appeal to people who sometimes enjoy a sense of indulgently immature humor maybe you are being a little unfair when you say she's a "hot mess". You don't actually know what she is like past the internet persona she uses to appeal to her demographic. You don't know how her depression affects her or if the behavior you describe didn't happen while she was depressed. And she didn't get all this attention because she talked about depression. She got all this attention because she talked about it in a way that interested people. Sorry she has a style that appeals to more people than other dry first-hand accounts of depression you prefer.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[chardmonster]

Not all of us fit in that lazy, scatterbrained, "hot mess" mold. In fact, most of us certainly DON'T. We clean our houses and go to the bank and generally function as responsible human beings, unless we're, you know, sick.

Is this seriously all you have to be proud of? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a female voice admitting all these things?

Ask any depressed person, and we'll tell you that it's about a lack of feeling, pleasure, and volition, not a double helping of sadness.

Hi! I have depression. You are half full of shit. There's often a lack of feeling, pleasure and volition! And often when you do have feelings, they're negative. Sadness is a negative emotion!

Did you listen to her on NPR and get really jealous or something?

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think she's reinforcing bad stereotypes at all. I identify with a lot that she's written. It's okay for you to not identify with it.

But you're essentially doing here what you are so annoyed about. You're trying to say Depression Is Like This! and that, if I'm reading you right, is what's pissing you off so much about her depression posts.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a little troubled by the assumptions layered in here, including that you have a legit basis to judge what Allie Brosh is like and when she has or has not been coping with some degree of depression based on a blog that has always intentionally and pretty openly aimed for humor more than 100% autobiographical accuracy. There's also a lot of judgment here about how anyone lives -- does being lazy and scatterbrained make someone a bad person or non-functional? What is the benchmark for being a "good" example of the havoc depression can cause in life?

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, the blog has "Hyperbole" in its name. Was this not enough of an indicator that it, oh, I don't know, exaggerates stuff?

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[shinyhappypanic]

when did she declare herself the poster girl of depression?? she made a comic about her personal experience with depression and a LOT of people identified with it. you said you don't like how her posts got popular--so basically what you're saying is that you don't like that a lot of people identified with the comic? how dare people have different experiences with depression than you?

it's fine if you don't like the way her story was written or what her message was, but I feel like you're making a ton of assumptions about her here and that really bugs me. and also I disagree that it's "common knowledge" what depression feels like--part of the reason her comic resonated so loudly with me is because she talked about how other people just don't get it, and that's exactly how I've always felt.

so in short I super disagree with you.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I can't speak about the depression angle, but I think her blog and her book are hilarious. I was audibly laughing while flipping through the book in the book store.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think John Hughes teen-oriented movies are that great. I can understand why in the 80s/90s they were, they portrayed teenagers as human beings and even now that's... rare in film, but the only John Hughes teen movie I was ever impressed by was Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

You do realize that she admits that some of what she posts is made up? Not entire posts, but details that make things sound extra-funny/odd/whatever. Especially with events from her childhood, she simply doesn't remember every bit of a story. Also, a lot of what she posts is her internal monologue. It's not like she's going around saying all of this stuff in serious settings.

And, as a woman who was once seriously depressed and is now mostly not depressed thanks to medication (much like yourself), a "double helping of sadness" was a big part of how I felt at my worst. There was a lot of nothingness, too, of course (which, I must point out, is very much addressed in the second depression post on the blog), but when I wasn't feeling half-dead, I was feeling very sad and scared.

Tl;dr, her blog is probably not a good way to judge whether she's a "hot mess," and you aren't the authority on depression, either.

Re: Unpopular Opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I really liked Simple Dog and Clean All The Things etc, and I wasn't bothered by the depression ones, but I went back recently and was so turned off by the dinosaur costume cartoon that I've lost all desire to go back.