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⌈ Secret Post #2533 ⌋
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Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
Detective Gumshoe and Ema Skye is close though ♥
You didn't ask for my favourite and also competent detectives.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
but i love him so and missed him terribly in AA5.Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
Oh, AA5. That game was a weird mix of new cast + story and last-minute shoehorned cameos. If I'm gonna get fanservice, couldn't I at least get more fanservice?Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
I loved AA5, but Gumshoe should have made an appearance. I get that the game is a new entry in AA, but there really needs to be a second Apollo Justice game to tie up loose ends. AA5 felt like they were trying to open a new chapter In the series, while still trying to appease old fans. I also loved Athena, but AA5 could have tried to be a bit more cohesive with the other games /end ramble that ended up being way longer than planned.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
No, it definitely wasn't a bad or un-enjoyable game for me. While I was hoping and waiting for an AJ sequel, I'll take what I can get. Even if Apollo wasn't the central character, albeit a major one, it was nice that we got to see and know through Phoenix's and Athena's POV (as well as alt POV for those two as well).
My major tiff with the game, aside from dropping every plot thread from the previous game (when they also weren't forgetting the returning characters who were completely ignorable like Trucyy), was what I saw as a rehash of themes and ideas towards the end case. You have UR-1, which is essentially the writers going, "hey, didn't fans love DL-6? Seven to eight-year old cases that are about to run out of their statute thing, and someone taking the fall for it? That's great! More of that!" Sort of like you said, it was as if it was stuck between being completely new, while also familiar. The "dark age of the law" is a bit hard to buy as only starting a few years ago when you've had a trilogy of games and spinoffs beforehand showing us how corrupt the universe here already was (von karma, gant, calisto, engarde, etc.).
Athena, while I love her, feels like a frankenstein of peppy assistant teenager girls, rather than as her own protagonist. I'm digging her interaction with other characters, rather than on her own, so I'm not sure what to think of that other than maybe I would have preferred to get to know her whole story over several games than just the one? I'm not sure where else the series could really take her :(
Also pretty ambivalent about Blackquill, though I'm pretty certain I still don't actually care about him as a character I want to know more about ever. He's a mix of "oh god shut up already you weeab :u" and "ha, he's such a dick ♥"
Still, it was probably one of the more hilariously written of the series imo.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
I loved Trucy's cameos (her magical panties are always an A+ in my books), but I would have loved for the Apollo & Trucy family side to be explored. I find it hard that Phoenix STILL hasn't told the two they are brother and sister.
I totally saw the connection to the UR-1 and Dl-6 case. I didn't mind as it had been a year since Ace Attorney games have always been in the "dark age of the law," haha. But I guess they had to do something. I mean, having a convicted convict as a prosecutor is pretty dark. It was nice that they referenced Apollo Justice as well, since Phoenix storyline was all about him losing his badge.
I loved Athena. She was just peppy and lovely. I always have a soft spot for Phoenix's girls. I think that her story evolving over games would have been good. I'm holding out that why they gave her whole story is because Apollo & Trucy's storyline will be tied up next game.
Really? I loved Blackquill. I thought his old English way of speaking was hilarious and his hawk was great. By the end of the game and the DL case, I was really liking the guy. He was actually super sweet, but circumstances made him into a hardass. I guess, I just love everybody, haha.
I knew this game might be a departure from AA4, so I walked into it with lower expectations. They met them and I do love all the characters and silly plots and self-awareness, so overall I was happy with the outcome.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
oh god your evidence disappears into her panties! I really missed her mind-reading, 4th-wall breaking abilities though, so yeah I'm a bit sore that she didn't get to be an assistant (outside of the quiz dlc). I hope that if AA6 ever happens, it doesn't just retcon or push the sibling topic aside further... The Lamiroir reference was there, but didn't that costume end up being called an original design or something?
but it gives me Juniper, professional cosplayer who sews their own clothes, headcanons at the same timeI just feel like I've seen her before, although I wouldn't call her "Kay 2.0" as some folk have taken. I guess I keep expecting a riskier take on the mandatory assistant characters. Maybe a surly girl? A peppy boy? Still, despite what I saw as generic genki traits, her competitive streak and slapstick moments were awesome. I also really didn't expect her freezeups.
But did I already mention how much I loved the sempai-kohai-SIBLINGS thing going on between her and Apollo? Holy crap, all of the adoptive family feelings going all over the place between all them defense lawyers, it was like watching a fanfiction made canon, but also not terrible and ruined. Phoenix practically calls them his kids! And Trucy thinking it was something she did, as if she made Apollo mad, and oh my heartstrings ;__;
So. Much. Fodder.
/tumblrin'
Yeah. I just couldn't get into Blackquill :( A lot of the UR-1 problems were kind of basically completely solveable if the police work wasn't even worse than usual (even with the phantom "discovering" the body) or if his plan wasn't so needlessly convoluted. Yeah, yeah. Samurai honor, die for your lord hime-sama whatever. I tried to be impressed?
Leave the bird in his place though, the true cutie star of the game.
His voice clips were great though imo, and again it was the humour that moved him from annoying to entertaining.
I was wary. I'm not actually fond of the first Investigations game, but I did like the characters despite the plot. Sort of the same here, and even with case 5-3 being one that I actually didn't enjoy at least most of the characters were memorable. And it was interesting that although DD was labelled a Phoenix Wright game, but that, like AA4, it wasn't actually about the titled character.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
I don't know a lick of Japanese, so unfortunately I will never play the quiz dlc. Was it good?
OMG THE LAIMOROIR COSTUME. It bothered me that NO ONE MENTIONED THE COINCIDENCE. ESPECIALLY APOLLO. Like, the case wasn't that long ago guys. Since they are keeping Trucy and Apollo around (thankfully), AA4 really needs the loose ends tied up.
I could kinda see a Kay 2.0 comparison. Personally, I believe she brought a bit more to the table and her secret science love was pretty cool in my books. But like I said before, I'm pretty laid back when it comes to companions. I have a tendency to love them all. Diversity is always nice, however.
The family Wright feels was the best <3 The sense of family in this game was amazing. I just want fics of them going to Disney Land and having picnics together. Family Wright outings. Aaaaah. The potential for fic and doujinshi is awesome.
Taka is the best. I felt bad for the judge everything time Taka attacked him, but I still laughed.
I liked the first Investigations game. I need to replay it, again. I liked controlling Miles and doing more sleuthing work. But I am obviously easy to please, haha. True! I guess the game was split up enough between Athena, Apollo, and Phoenix, they still found reason to call it a Phoenix Wright game. The probably didn't' want to alienate anymore players by calling it something else as well.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
Haven't played it, but I've been looking at segments (skip to 3:50 for the actual first part) and screencaps where I can. Hopefully I'll be able to get a Japanese 3DS to eventually buy the game... twice? aw man. Still though, it's gold for dialogue between either lawyer's POV and their assistant. The entire premise is ridiculous, but you get the chance to explore certain sections of the areas you aren't allowed to investigate in the main game (WAA office for instance! that red jacket? it's Apollo's!). The quizzes themselves are okayish I suppose. I guess it's a bit like Layton, and your assistant is a bit like your Luke, or a Watson your lawyer gets to amaze with how they solve these things. Still, for the chance to have that extra bit of commentary on those unexplored areas and more dialogue between characters, it's wonderful even if it's not a lot.
Someone in the CR forums has been translating the dialogue bits (not the quizzes) whenever they can though, so there's that.
At least I have fanart and fanfiction to satiate the lack of closure with the siblings.
I don't know about Kay though. She's more of a deus ex machina with her ability and introduction if I want to simplify her. The most I ask for story and characters is that I feel strongly about it in any direction, rather than having it/them fall flat. And so far AA/AI has been pretty good about it's protagonists, villains, and prosecutors in that regard. (Simon will probably grow on me eventually, and I'll wonder why I didn't think about him from a different new meta angle or whatever).
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
The segment link goes to the normal youtube video page for me :( I'll check youtube to see if I can find it. If you can understand what is being said, twice is fine, haha. I would too. (That reminds me that Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright is coming out soon! Super excited for it.)
Thanks for the translation links!
Fanfic does make everything better :)
Fair enough. I need to replay Investigations and see if my opinion of her has changed.
Re: Who's your favorite fictional detective?
Yes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPEnaz0Qm8