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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-14 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2538 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2538 ⌋

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Re: So, should Santa be black?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
why would it matter if he's white then

like honestly I'm surprised Megyn Kelly has never heard of a black Santa before, I've seen depictions of him as black and other races in cartoons and I remember a Cosby episode where the little girl (I think Raven but it could have been Ruby) said she saw three different Santas at three different stores and they were all different races and I think Lisa Bonet gave her a speech that Santa can be any and all races or something like that

and I'm sure predominantly black or Asian communities have a Christmas party where one guy dresses up as Santa

and there are plenty of black guys who work as mall Santa's I'm sure

it's just not a new idea at all

but also I think it does matter like I can see how Santa is kind of a father/grandpa figure that kids look up to? Not like they want to be old and fat and drive a sleigh (though they might) but that he spreads joy to everyone in the world and it's nice when your role model looks like you or... at least when it's a possibility and there aren't white people on the news telling you that there's no way he can look like you, ever.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-14 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the whole point of my comment is that it does not matter if he is white or not, which is why there could be non-white Santas?

Though you may have a point here:

but that he spreads joy to everyone in the world and it's nice when your role model looks like you or... at least when it's a possibility and there aren't white people on the news telling you that there's no way he can look like you, ever.

so it would be good if there were more diverse Santas in movies and other fictional/arty stuff. But it's not like anyone absolutely ought to do that, or that anyone's individual unwillingness to portray Santa as something other than a white man indicates the presence of racism. I think it only applies to the original characters - the unwillingness to introduce any non-white non-male characters may be an indicator of some kind of prejudice. But interpreting the already existings ones? Hell no.

Re: So, should Santa be black?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-14 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
idk I don't see why a non-racist person would ever be unwilling to portray him as anything other than white? neutral, sure, but to actually be against it/offended by the possibility sounds racist to me (and I'm not saying you are you seem neutral imo)
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-14 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I meant like if they are an artist and they do not wish for their Santa to be non-white. It's not racism, they just don't want to change the aesthetics of the character. If they are actively against anyone else portraying him as dark-skinned/are offended by it, they have no idea how art and culture work and they can GTFO.