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⌈ Secret Post #2538 ⌋

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Comments

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I don't understand is: why are people so very upset at the idea of Santa Claus being anything but white?

I think people who get so angry at the mere idea of Santa being non-white need to take a moment and honestly think about why that idea bothers them so much.

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[(Anonymous)]

I guess because I'm also against the banning of "Merry Christmas" and whatnot, just to make things PC. If Santa as a character is white, then why change it. If Santa was black originally, there would be hellfire if someone suggested he be made into a penguin to 'make it acceptable to all non-black children'

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[dreemyweird]

IA with this, btw.

eta: the "if Santa were black" part. As to the "why change it" question, the answer is: Santa is a franchise character, and people can portray him however they wish to. Different interpretations are always interesting (and may be good for other kids).

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[(Anonymous)]

I should clarify that I don't have any issues with different takes, but to phase out Santa completely and make him a penguin doesn't really make sense to me.

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I put "Merry Christmas" bans in the same category as Bigfoot and Nessie.

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[(Anonymous)]

That's too bad, since it's actually real.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_controversy#Retailer_controversies

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Changes in marketing policy are not bans.

Never mind that at least half of those cases were amazing examples of the AFA getting it wrong and boycotting companies that explicitly used the word "Christmas" in their advertising.

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[dreemyweird]

I think that many get upset because they are racist, but I can understand somebody being - not against it, exactly - but sad about it, in a non-racist way. There is a widely accepted image of what Santa looks like, and for many folks it was a pretty big part of their childhood. If this image blurs and goes away, letting a non-defined!Santa become prevalent, it will make them feel old and just deprive them of some nostalgic joy.

A symbolic image of Santa is a powerful thing, a cultural impression that lasts. Of course people are upset at the idea that it should go away.

(which does not mean that it should or should not be preserved as it is. Everybody should have artistic freedom; cultural tides shall eventually do their work and shape that or other Santa/Santas).

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I understand it, but I think it's in the same sad cultural change reaction that my uncles tend to talk about how good it was back in the day when people (aka women and black people, mostly) "knew their place". Or back in the day when people didn't talk about those homosexuals.

Change is sad, and particularly so when it is tied with childhood memories, but I don't think that means it's a bad thing. (Not that I think that's what you said. Just branching off from your thoughts.)

Re: So, should Santa be black?

[dreemyweird]

You are right in that cultural change isn't bad; and I do think that many of those who are upset about non-white Santas react so out of racist prejudices they hold (how good it was back in the day when people (aka women and black people, mostly) "knew their place"). But it can also be a reaction to change as such. If somebody suddenly proposed that Santa have blue skin, I guess it would have been pretty much the same.