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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-20 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2544 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2544 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kim Richards, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills]


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[Saints Row IV]


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[Supernatural]


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[Magnificent 7]


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06. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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07. [SPOILERS for Sons of Anarchy]



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08. [SPOILERS for Person of Interest]



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09. [SPOILERS for I have no idea. Doctor Who?]



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10. [SPOILERS for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]




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11. [SPOILERS for Frozen]



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12. [SPOILERS for Reign]
[WARNING for dead people?]



13. [WARNING for rape]














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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #363.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Can we stop calling her a rapist? The creators have said that it wasn't rape so it's misogynistic to insist otherwise tbqh.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Oh well done. Oh very well done. Bravo.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Creators can be wrong though. If I drew a duck and said it was a pig, I'd be wrong. If they didn't want something to be seen as rape they should have made damn sure that was clear when they wrote it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
is this some weird meta version of the tone argument? "It sounded like it was X to me, so it was your responsibility to change the tone so I wouldn't be confused"

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Well, no, not in the US.

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loracarol: (roger disapproves)

[personal profile] loracarol 2013-12-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
No.

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[personal profile] comradesmiler 2013-12-21 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Your comment is full of misandry.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Misandry doesn't exist shitlord

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helenadax: (ouat)

[personal profile] helenadax 2013-12-21 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
When a man says "Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!" he doesn't mean "yes".
Edited 2013-12-21 00:22 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you know? Men always want to have sex! So it can't be rape! /s

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who does not watch the show, please give me the rundown?

I expect that this being OUAT, she somehow magicked/potioned someone to love and have sex with her? Which would be rape.
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[personal profile] loracarol 2013-12-21 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
In the fairy tale world, she ripped out the Huntsman's heart (giving her control over his life/death), and then had the guards drag him away to her bed chamber.

In the real world (where she controlled everyone's false memories/personalities), she made it so that he was her lover (rape by deception), and killed him when he started falling in love with someone else.

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iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

[personal profile] iceyred 2013-12-21 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Are you even trying anymore?

Re: 9/10

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree, it's just a few people saying they're wrong. Not like they're arguing it and getting the thread frozen.
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Re: 9/10

[personal profile] sarillia 2013-12-21 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
You're being very generous
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-12-21 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Nope.

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Fandom is full of neckbeards and MRAs sadly

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
and look I was just reading about SJWs throwing "internalized misogyny" at people for calling a woman out on something...and speak of the devil it happened.


....I should use this power for good.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
good lord, can we please get a new troll? I'll even take back ugly troll at this point. where you at, ugly troll?

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. you're putting it in much too simplistic terms, but basically yeah, this.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
"Misogynistic" doesn't mean what you think it means. And, while it might be a motivation, it has nothing to do with whether or not an action or actions constitute rape.

Also? The creators' intent isn't a fiat.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
The only way I can retain my faith in humanity is to assume that every anon supporting the OP of this thread is a sockpuppet of that same anon. Really? "The creators say it wasn't rape, so it wasn't rape?" Honey, an action falling under the definition of "rape" is what makes it rape or not rape. That's what definitions are for.

Rape: making someone have sex without their consent. Did she do that? If she did, it's rape. If she didn't, explain to me how it wasn't non-consensual. Did the creators say (or make a deleted scene where) the two of them actually talked things out in private when they were both in their right minds and he consented, or where there was a reveal that all her actions were secretly being controlled by someone else all along? If not, it's rape. By definition.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even watch this show, but where exactly was the male character's enthusiastic, uncoerced consent?

If you willfully make another person an unwilling participant in a sexual act, you are a rapist. That should be a fairly uncontroversial statement.

Helpful hint: media creators incorrectly labeling a sex act as consensual is a major symptom of/contributor to rape culture.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-21 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's not how it works
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2013-12-23 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Devin Grayson also said Tarantula didn't rape Nightwing.

So no.