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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-28 04:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2552 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2552 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well

Not that I disagree, but you could just try and ignore all that stuff.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-28 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I'm not gonna lie, it's pretty easy to not know a thing about creators.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on your circle of people. My tumblr is full of creators/actors quotes and life and creepy pics. I've blacklisted what I can but a lot still shows up. And the people mostly post stuff I like, so as of now I haven't unfollowed but it's annoying.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-28 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Now see, I would unfollow. I figure I can find the same content minus the real people stuff from other people.

And I don't even have a blacklist.

I guess it depends on what you define as easy.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I follow a lot of people who post lovely fic and/or fanart that unfortunately only post it to their tumblrs. Oh cruel world. Sadly they also post a lot of the pics and quotes and deets from RL.

Idk. I guess I could just stop reading the authors I like but at that point why be in fandom at all? (For me it's all about the fic and fanart.)
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-28 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, maybe you can just keep a stash of links to their fic tags and just look those up once in a while? I've done that. But hey, it's all your choice, man. Do what makes you happy.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
You could pay attention to what you're reading and stop reading posts that are clearly about things you don't want to know. Or are you one of those people who just *~reads too fast and can't help it.*~

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
"*~reads too fast and can't help it.~*"

Petty much?

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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-29 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
It's less about reading them in the first place, for me, and more about the fact they clog up my dash.

If an author is pretty food about posting mostly fanfic and/or fandom stuff with personal posts either very minimal (or on a different blog), I follow them. If it's someone who posts a lot of stuff I'm not interested, I don't. Either I just bookmark their fic tags and visit every now and then to see if there is anything new, or if they don't use regular tags then I just don't bother trying to read their fic.

It's sad, but I have limited time, and if they can't use the basic effort to tag their fic somehow or otherwise make it possible to find their fic without having to go through several dozen pages of other crap, then I can't be bothered to put in the effort to find that fic. There are plenty of other good authors out there who have the decency to at least tag all their fics with something like "fic" or "fanfic", if not do a variety of other things that makes their fics accessible to casual readers, and not just followers who watch their every post and move.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
you could only follow their fic-tag? Try an RSS feed?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I heard 0% from the creators and I have no blacklsit...I don't understand why people hate these sites when they are the ones who choose who they follow. I just unfollow people I don't like.

post one post pro abortion, you're gone.
post one post that is a little racist, you're gone.
talk down or bad about women (even if you are one), you're gone.

Human rights are a very big deal to me, so one post is all it takes.

If you seriously believe being poor or not up to the responsibility of taking care of a child means you have the right to kill them, or that men are never raped and rape jokes about women are funny I want nothing to do with you.

And considering how the popular belief is that abortions are great for women, even when every study ever done that actually looks at their mental health (it is 2013, I know you care about my body, as you always have, but I would like to think by now you cared about my mind, too) says the opposite and they still aren't required to do follow ups after having them preformed; it isn't exactly easy to find people who are both pro-human rights and against non-medical reason abortions.

tl;nr even if your beliefs go far against the norm, you still get to follow people based on whatever you want. If you wanted to avoid the creators, you could.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-12-28 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
even if your beliefs go far against the norm, you still get to follow people based on whatever you want. If you wanted to avoid the creators, you could.

I can say you have definitely made your case. Those beliefs don't normally go together. And yet, you can find a dash that suits you.

And I think that's all I'll say on the matter because as I'm sure you know this can get ugly fast.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but why did you need to make the majority of that post just some irrelevant moral soapboxing shit?

You can't "unfollow" anon posts in the comments section, so keep it in your pants, please.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
it isn't exactly easy to find people who are both pro-human rights and against non-medical reason abortions

*raises hand*

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
even when every study ever done that actually looks at their mental health...says the opposite

Do you have a source for that?

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
can I get a source on the mental health issues post-abortion? I'd like to have that to show people who call me a hateful anti-my-fellow-women bitch when I say that I'm not a fan of abortion.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
You mentioned you're anti-abortion, could I ask a couple questions?

Why would being poor or not up to the responsibility be invalid reasons for an abortion? If you are unable to care for or simply don't want a child, you shouldn't be obligated to have a child.

And if your response is adoption, do you take into account the financial burden of medical bills the pregnancy causes? Or what about the resulting increase of unwanted children into a system that isn't able to adopt out all the children already in it because so many people have a strong bias to have biological children? I haven't looked into anything lately, but has the anti-abortion side proposed anything like some sort of bill to have unwanted pregnancy care paid for or increasing the quality of the whole adoption system instead of just saying "women can't do that"?

The problem I have with most the anti-abortion side is that it seems to be ignoring the simple fact that some women just adamantly do not want to be pregnant, and they will not be pregnant if they don't want to. Even if all their care is paid for and the baby is guaranteed an adoption as soon as it's born, some women, for one reason or the other, don't want to carry or give birth.

I would much rather have abortion be legal so that those women can have their abortions in a safe, regulated medical environment rather than have them use any of the dangerous methods desperate women can take to achieve it. Making it illegal won't stop the people who want abortions from getting them, just drive them to very dubious 'doctors' or coat-hangers and staircases. Making it legal won't force women who don't want an abortion to have one.

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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-12-29 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Adults choose to do a lot of things that might not be good for them mentally or physically. It is not a viable solution to outlaw said things so as to protect mentally-sound, independent people from their own personal decisions, unless you can prove those decisions will harm others around them. Assuming you're in favor of outlawing abortion, anyway - I don't care if you just find it a distasteful moral position/decision but have no interest in legally abolishing it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for this. I know that when I come to FS what I really want is to hear someone tell me how horrible abortion is because that's totally relevant to the discussion at hand. Hell, when even the Pope has stopped focusing on this every minute of every day you might want to stop shoehorning it in everywhere.

But since you brought it up, I do care about your body AND your mind. I care enough to let you make your own choices about both based on your own beliefs and what you feel is best for you, not what I feel is best for you based on my own or anyone else's experiences. Please allow the rest of us to do the same.
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*Not going to get involved, not going to start shit, not going to debate tonight...oh, fuck it.*

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-29 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
it isn't exactly easy to find people who are both pro-human rights and against non-medical reason abortions

That might have something to do with the fact access to safe and legal reproductive health options ARE a human right issue, and that includes access to safe and legal abortions.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Question out of curiosity, because you mentioned the mental health of women: would you consider the mental health of the pregnant women a medical reason? If I were to get pregnant, I would have to go off my meds, which would impact my mental health greatly (I'm bipolar). As would carrying an unwanted child to term, actually, since it's a huge stressor and therefore guaranteed to trigger an episode.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It is quite easy to avoid people, or information for that matter. For example, there was a pre-screening of the new Sherlock episode. I am not going to go on the Sherlock tag on Tumblr, because odds (however small) are that I'll be spoiled. There are some people I choose not to follow because for every 1 post that interest me, there are 9 that don't interest me. Last but not least, some people I don't see eye to eye with since I'm gender queer and bisexual, I figure that they probably don't want anything to do with me anyway. I do read a variety of blogs, opinions and whatnot since I'm fascinated by what makes people tick. I might not agree with them, but it makes for very interesting reading for me.

Anyway, it's a choice everybody needs to make for themselves. You might miss some of the good stuff, or you take the good with the bad.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2013-12-28 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I know that a ton of 'creator' type people are on twitter and such re: Supernatural, but i don't even read Jared's twitter feed. Not necessary.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Some fandoms, where the creators themselves are taken as the word of god, that's not easy. You might as well blacklist 95% of the fandom.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much.