[ SECRET POST #2558 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2558 ⌋

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11. [SPOILERS for Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures]
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Comments

[fauxkaren]

Well for me, I knew there was no going back in my hatred of Walt when he sexually assaulted his wife.

But you know. I guess everyone has different lines for characters to cross.

For some people, it's poisoning children. For others it might be letting a woman die so that a character can continue to manipulate and control her boyfriend.

But apparently, the line is somewhere past that for you.

[(Anonymous)]

When did he rape Skyler? When he tried having sex with her, she said no and he STOPPED?

[fauxkaren]

I didn't say rape.

I said sexual assault.

Which is what that was.

[(Anonymous)]

So its sexual assault if the person stops when the other says no?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there was the time he tried to force himself on her against the fridge. I could view that as either attempted sexual assault or sexual assault. It kind of depends on how Skyler views he. Walt didn't stop right when she told him to stop. He kept trying to force himself on her until she finally became physically forceful enough with him.

But the definite instance of sexual assault was when Walt had sex with her at the end of that one S5 episode. At that point Skyler was absolutely terrified of him and Walt knew it. They were not sharing a bed or having sex at that point in time in their relationship. He just got into bed and initiated sex with her, both without her consent, while she lay there frozen in terror. That's rape.

[(Anonymous)]

If you weren't so prolific a poster around here, I'd assume you were trolling right now.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't say that things were seeming very consensual in the first half of s5 when he was knowingly terrifying Skyler and she couldn't keep him out of her bed.

[(Anonymous)]

It was their bed, not hers.

And it's not like she couldn't sleep on the couch if she wanted to.

[(Anonymous)]

a) she had just learned that he had murdered three people, she was frightened

b) by all appearances she wanted out of the marriage but she was trapped because Walt wouldn't let the kids go

Pretty sure Walt would've manipulated her into keeping up appearances and Walt Jr. absolutely would've fallen back on the 'bitch mom' interpretation if she was sleeping on the couch.

Besides, it wasn't his bed either. Emphasis on theirs.

[(Anonymous)]

The line for me would be if Walt were to kill a family member in cold blood. Like if he tried to kill Hank. Conversely, Walt was willing to give away everything he had to save him, even though Hank was a huge threat to him.

[sabotabby]

Why is it worse if it's a family member?

I'm not trying to be a dick, it's something I truly don't understand about our culture. And, incidentally, something I love about BrBa; Walter justifies all the horrible shit that he does because it's for his family, but that doesn't make it less horrible, and Andrea and Jane's family is no less important IMO.

[greenvelvetcake]

The whole "poisoned a small, innocent child" thing is what turned Walt into a full-blown villain in my eyes. How anyone can root for him is beyond me.

[(Anonymous)]

He did it to save his family from a murderous drug kingpin. The kid was fine.

[greenvelvetcake]

No, he did it to emotionally manipulate Jesse and save his own skin. If he wanted to save his family from a murderous drug kingpin, he wouldn't have started making meth in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

No, he did it to save his family. He tried using his money to get them new identities away from Gus but Skyler had already spent it.

And clearly when he started working with Gus he didn't anticipate that a chain of events would occur that would lead to Gus threatening to kill his infant daughter.

[greenvelvetcake]

Walt is show to be a very, very intelligent man. I find it hard to believe that he couldn't anticipate working for Gus might end badly for him.

Well, on the other hand, he's also very arrogant, so maybe it didn't occur to him. Either way, that doesn't give him a by on all the bad things he did to "protect" his family.

[(Anonymous)]

There was nothing to indicate that things would go as bad as they did. Gus wasn't Tuco.

[(Anonymous)]

He never would have worked with Gus OR Tuco if he had accepted the money from Gretchen and Elliot.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, to be fair, nearly every bad thing that ever happened on the show wouldn't have happened if he hadn't started making meth in the first place. Including the entire show. That wouldn't have happened.

[greenvelvetcake]

Exactly. And we would be the poorer for it, because it is a great show - but "to entertain the audience" is also not a good defense for Walter White. He's not meant to be the good guy.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yeah, I completely agree with you. Just felt it was worth typing.

I think it's worthy catch-all argument for extreme Walt-sympathizers, actually. 'But, he did this for his family--' SHOULDN'T HAVE STARTED MAKING METH. 'He was only protecting--' PEOPLE FROM THE REPERCUSSIONS OF HIS MAKING METH? 'But, he obviously loves--' METTTTHHHHH.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm imagining you actually yelling that to people and when I got to "METTTTHHHHH" I burst out laughing.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't particularly like Walt and I love Skyler. But he never sexually assaulted, wtf are you talking about

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure they're referring to the scene in the kitchen after he escaped from Tuco, Skyler ending up hitting her head on the fridge before she could get him off.

Either that or it was the super creepy scene in bed during the first half of s5, although apparently she managed to appease him with a handjob in a deleted scene.