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Romeo and Juliet is not a story about true love. They're not the epitome example of what that is. And people comparing other OTPs to them to show how perfect their pairing is something I don't buy.

It's hinted strongly that Shakespeare purposefully is telling us Romeo and Juliet were stupid teenagers charged by hormones and their final act was a complete waste of life, with a bit of fault from both their families rivalry. That's the tragedy. Not how true Romeo and Juliet's love was, but how desperate their acts were because they felt controlled by their families, which in consequence resulted in multiple deaths.

The entire play reads like "Romeo's Rebound". Dude talks about committing suicide after Rosaline rejects him because she's swearing herself to virginity. Then that same night as he's talking about suicide he declares his love for Juliet. Even the priest who weds them later says these two moved waaaaay to fast. It's also hinted that he did drugs and drank heavily at the party.

So yeah, whenever someone compares their fandom OTP to the epic love of Romeo and Juliet to show how pure and flawless their love is, I can't help but disagree.

Eh, the best argument I've heard for R&J being about love is it being about a *first* love - not True Love. Which makes sense to me combined with them being teenagers since...hey. A lot of people have those extreme feelings about their first love ["I'll die without them!" or "This love was meant to last forever!"].

SA

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Eh, the best argument I've heard for R&J being about love is it being about a *first* love - not True Love. Which makes sense to me combined with them being teenagers since...hey. A lot of people have those extreme feelings about their first love ["I'll die without them!" or "This love was meant to last forever!"].

That's why it's so tragic when they die before experiencing anything beyond that.

It doesn't even fit the bill for that, since Romeo was speaking like that about Rosaline in the beginning of the play. I guess if people wanted to interpret their stupidity to the first love feeling, that can make sense in their headcanon. But I've mainly heard in other fandoms who reference R&J about how perfect and flawless their love is and how it reminds them of their OTP. So it's not even a same interpretation like the one you're describing.

Eh, first love usually refers to a person's first relationship, and seeing as Rosaline rejected Romeo it's a plausible way to view it.

And, to be fair, most [including your's] views of R&J are just headcanon/interpretation.

A lot of the text, including how other people who knew what Romeo and Juliet were doing, supports that they rushed into it and that it in no way was true love. It was just two hormone driven teenagers rushing into things because of infatuation.

DA And that's your interpretation.

Sorry to burst your "explain things to us stupid masses" bubble but...literally no one who knows anything about the plot DOES think that in the first place. It's really not a remotely unpopular opinion, it's blindingly obvious fact that every single person from the loftiest Shakespeare scholars to that B-average high school kid who had to read it for sophomore English is aware of. It's stated as fact in almost every introduction to every edition of the play.

The ONLY people who think Romeo and Juliet are true love are people who don't know anything about the plot. You don't need to point this out by citing examples from the play, because everyone who has read/seen the play and knows what you're talking about already knows that it's not a story about true love.

Mind you, people still think it's a poignant romantic story due to the fact that the Capulets and the Montagues were so busy feuding that they didn't notice that their teenage kids had romantic problems and needed the support and advice of people older and wiser and with more perspective than them, and that the parents were acting as childishly as their kids and therefore the kids were so alienated that they convinced themselves their love was the most important thing ever because they had no convincing standard of actual maturity to be a role model for them. And before the families got their shit the kids were both dead due to immature whims that should never have gotten so out of hand, and wouldn't have gotten out of hand if their families weren't such neglectful, warp-perspective'd boneheads. Kind of a story pointing out the dangers of what can happen to young romance, which everyone thinks of as so sweet and cute and harmless, when it happens without guides or perspective.

Uh, I don't think people who read it that way are stupid. Do I think they misread the text? Yeah. But that doesn't make someone stupid.

Maybe you've never come across these people, but there's plenty of people who call Romeo and Juliet "the greatest love story of all time" and reference them as "true love". There's even people who compare Romeo and Juliet to ships in fandoms, one of the known ones that did this a lot was the Harry Potter fandom.

Your last paragraph was a summary of what I was just touching on.

Dude, no one who read the play thinks this. You might as well be explaining how Emperor Palpatine was a bigger bad guy than Darth Vader to people who have already seen the movies.

Have you been around the internet? Plenty of people think this about the story. There's even a name for a ship in the Harry Potter fandom based off of Romeo and Juliet.

Frankly, I have never understood how people can read that story and not feel this way. The tragedy was that everyone was stupid and stubborn and cruel and it ended with a lot of death that could have been avoided, not that Their Love Was So Pure.

This exactly.

A - As the people above me have so eloquently explained, no one thinks this.

B - The drugs thing is from a movie version. Which definitely doesn't help you seem with it.

If you read the first act, it's hinted that Romeo and his friends had been drinking. Which really was not all that uncommon back in those times.

I know that they were drinking. But alcohol is literally not the same as drugs. So, your assertion is still not accurate.

The high school kids who skimmed the play might find this surprising, but anyone who's thought about the story for more than five minutes has already reached this conclusion.

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