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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-09 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2564 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2564 ⌋

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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-01-10 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Rose is too good for Eleven tbqh.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't even involved in yesterday's shitstorm, but damn you are starting to grate on the nerves.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Mte. Usually she doesn't annoy me or anything, but whenever Doctor Who comes up she's very annoying.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. In everything else, she seems to understand that people have different opinions on things and certainly promotes hers but acknowledges disagreement. When it comes to Who, though, she doesn't seem to think anyone could possibly like Moffatt's writing and/or dislike RTD's or that people could actually either like it in spite of sexism/racism/whatever or disagree with her on where those things exist.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Ayrt

Tell me about it. She's especially bad when it comes to anyone saying damn near anything that could be considered bad about Rose.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Or for that matter if you say anything negative towards the idea that the Doctor loved Rose even if you actually like Rose.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
....eh? I was here yesterday, didn't see any wank. What'd I miss?

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, it was SECRET #1 yesterday. The thread wasn't Doctor Who related, just fauxkaren shenanigans, with a dose of Moffat-hate and racewank.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
mte

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I usually like what you say even when I don't agree with it, but the random Moffat-era bashing in places that don't even call for it is getting old.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-01-10 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
What, why? How is Eleven "bad" versus Rose "good"?
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-01-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
lol I didn't expect people to get quite this annoyed over my flippant comment.

So let me explain further.

Eleven is a bag of dicks.

Rose is an ethereal goddess.

lololol. ok ok. I'll be serious now.

I think Eleven is a tool and he's pretty awful to the people traveling with him. Kicking the Ponds out of the Tardis. Hiding Amy's pregnancy from her. Telling Clara he wouldn't send her away again and then literally a second later, doing exactly what he said he wouldn't do.

I wouldn't want a character that I love as much as Rose having to travel with him if that's how he treats the people he travels with.

There. That explain things more?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, that's not unique to Eleven. Nine and Ten where both dicks to their companions, as were earlier Doctors. That's kind of a trait of the Doctor, period.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-01-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I won't deny that Nine and Ten were sometimes dicks, but usually the narrative called them out on it. And nothing that Nine or Ten every did bothered me as much as some of the shit that Eleven pulled.

"Oh yeah... I'll totally go look for your baby that got stolen because of me!" *goes coat shopping instead and screens Amy's calls*

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ten pretty much dumped Rose to babysit his genocidal double that neither he nor Donna explained had picked up aspects of Donna's personality (so you know, while hopefully that makes him a BETTER match for Rose, there's the possibility it might...not, and maybe she should have been given time to process this rather than being slammed with decision time and pretty much strong-armed into making a "choice").

So really the idea that Eleven is bad for Rose after Ten's move there just makes me laugh. At the same time, I didn't find anything special about Rose and then found her overplayed, so I'm just glad that she will in all likelihood never be returning period.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-01-10 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, I never saw 11 as malicious, more like in a constant childlike state of wonder about the world around him, and oblivious to lot of things.

I liked Eleven. And I liked Rose (but not up to the point where she's ten feet above every other companion ever).
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-01-10 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
He was already over 900 years old and then he spent ~1000 years as Eleven.

IT'S TIME FOR HIM TO GROW THE FUCK UP. The idea that he doesn't understand humans holds zero water with me because he's supposed to be reasonably intelligent. He's spent hundreds of years traveling with humans. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT. So what's supposed to be ~charming~ just annoys me.

I don't think Rose is above every other companion ever. She's my sentimental favorite, but I probably love Martha just as much as Rose if we take away my sentimental attachment to the companion that made me fall in love with the show. I also have a lot of affection for Donna. I've enjoyed a lot of Classic Who companions.

But this secret brought up Rose in particular.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-10 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, but this comment doesn't even make sense. They're not different people, you know.

Now, I can see someone claiming that she would stop loving the Doctor after he became Eleven -- hell, humans change and fall out of love even without personality-rearranging regenerations -- but he's the same damn person. Just like Nine was the same person as Ten.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-01-10 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
What about it doesn't make sense?

I don't like Eleven and wouldn't want to see Rose traveling with him because she's too good for him.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Tsk tsk

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I thought that said Evelyn.

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I'm gonna take this and make genderswapped Eleven's nickname.
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[personal profile] redcirce 2014-01-11 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Apologies if this is a rude comment (it's not meant to be), but I am endlessly fascinated (and might have commented on this before) on how you seem to have endlessly devoted anons that follow you around on fs to pick apart your comments?

Especially because I've seen you around in fandom and you don't seem to post anything particularly inflammatory? Am I missing something?

I mean, presumably they are lots of different people, but so many of the comments are so overblown and similar in tone it makes me wonder how many of them are actually the same person? I just went to the post referenced below to see the "wank" "shitstorm" you raised, and in a like, 300 comment long thread you had one comment on the secret and like, 3 others responding to a (surprise) anon that seemed to have some sort of personal issue with you. That's a wank shitstorm? I don't get it.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-01-11 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
lmao yeah.

I started gaining a fanclub of anon "admirers" a year or so ago when I was being dismissive of Sansa/Sandor shipping and defending Catelyn Stark. And of course I've never been shy about my Doctor Who opinions and I was anti-Sherlock/pro-Elementary which probably didn't gain me many fans. They seem to have a personal beef with me because honestly, especially in this thread, I wasn't really doing much.

Whatever. Doesn't really bother me other than to amuse me because really it's their issue and not mine.
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[personal profile] redcirce 2014-01-11 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, so it all started over you not liking a particular ship and defending an (I'm guessing) unpopular female character?

Oh fandom, never change.

(Though I don't really know anything about Game of Thrones, I just went and read the wiki for Sandor, specifically the Sansa parts.
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Um. Sansa/Sandor is a ship?. Wow.)