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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-02 03:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2588 ]


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inevitableentresol: a Victorian gentleman with the body of a carrot (Default)

[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-02 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved the sibling love theme too. It was surprisingly sane. Disney films in the past were a bit creepy when young women were expected to leave their families at an early age upon marriage (Cinderella, Snow White, even Beauty and the Beast).

Evil Hans was magnificent Hans. The more evil he got, the more I enjoyed him.
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[personal profile] neonlovechicken 2014-02-02 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I always love sibling themes (see icon), and not necessarily in shipping mode, like in this case. It was a Disney princess movie making fun of love at first sight and more about family, I found it very unusual in this sense.

I also loved the guy with the reindeer and the reverse love story with the princess.

Eh, now that I think about it I liked the concepts in it a lot, but the execution was aimed more at kids probably.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-02 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a Disney princess movie making fun of love at first sight and more about family, I found it very unusual in this sense.

It was almost a commentary on every other Disney princess movie ever.

I almost didn't believe they were going to go there, and when I realised they did, I was - yes, yes, yes!

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's why I didn't care for the movie, personally. Why can't love at first sight be just that? Why does there have to be a subversion? I don't watch Disney movies for realism.

And instead of ending up with a guy she knows for one day, she ends up with...a guy she knows for two days. Wow, big improvement. Way to go, Disney!
inevitableentresol: a Victorian gentleman with the body of a carrot (Default)

[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-03 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
But she didn't end up with the second guy. That was the point. They ended the movie as friends, perhaps more in time.

And I'm speaking as someone who started a relationship with a man after knowing him two hours, been married to him for over twelve years now. So I'm as foolish in love as they come.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, that is so sweet and amazing! Congratulations to the both of you!

With Anna and Kristoff though, I thought it was pretty clear that they did have feelings for each other by the end of the movie. Kristoff's kiss was supposed to break the curse, and Anna didn't second guess it. Plus there was the actual kiss at the end. They didn't end up married, but they're well beyond "just friends." That's what I meant by "ending up together."

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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-03 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Kissing someone is very different than agreeing to marry them. It was the 'marry the first boy you see' cliche that I thought this movie avoided.

I kissed my now-husband after knowing him two hours. I didn't marry him until over two years later. Thanks for your kind congratulations, anon.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Er, in the cases of Cinderella and Snow White at least, their "families" abused and/or tried to kill them. If I was them, I would want to get the hell out, too. And also (this should go without saying, but) women were generally expected to get married at young ages in the past.

I agree that evil Hans was magnificent, even though I was annoyed they made the decision to make him evil (I don't think this is the kind of film that needed a villain). I am a bit put off that they didn't have him go off into an evil reprise of "Love is an Open Door" though.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-03 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I am a bit put off that they didn't have him go off into an evil reprise of "Love is an Open Door" though.

That would have been FABULOUS. A villanous, comedy reprise. It would probably have spoiled the pacing of the movie, but now I'm imagining it, I want it.

Er, in the cases of Cinderella and Snow White at least, their "families" abused and/or tried to kill them.

Yeah, I thought it wasn't an entirely fair example as I said it. And Belle has her father visit her regularly after marriage. But there's still the old-fashioned unspoken expectation that a bride will move away and leave her home.

Ariel. That's a better example.