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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-12 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2598 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2598 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if anyone ever asked kids what they take out of these movies or if grown ups just like to make assumptions on the problematic messages they see in them?

TBH I saw Pocahontas a few times as a kid and 2 messages marked me: 1) colonists are assholes and 2) being a hothead is bad. There was the normal "be kind and listen to others, see the good in people, don't be a warmongering villain..." Disney messages but they were much less memorable. Pocahontas was not better than the rest of her people, she was just different, and maybe wiser for looking to solve a conflict through discussion rather than war. John Smith (IIRC, the blond dude) was, on the other hand, clearly portrayed as superior to the rest of the colonists (his people) who were obviously self-serving and evil.

As I said, this is not an adult analysis, this is what child-me understood from the movie. It kinda contradicts what adult-you says children understand from the movie, so I wonder if any actual children were ever asked these questions of if your statements are all entirely theoretical assumptions?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
As a child not from the US (I was in elementary school when that movie came out I think aka we hadn't learned about all that stuff in school yet), all I got out the movie was:
1.) Pocahontas was a good person
2.) fighting/killing is bad
3.) You should listen to nature more (I used to know that wind song by heart)
4.) the ending was sad and I wanted John Smith to stay with her

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
What I got from the movie is that when you run you can look really awesome and sort of imagine animals running with you and your hair doing awesome wavy things and you're basically on a heroic charge.

That's really all I got from the movie as a kid (except shock that she and John Smith didn't end up together, but whatever, more awesome running).

(Anonymous) 2014-02-13 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Very good point.