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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-28 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2614 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2614 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Americans]


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04. http://oi58.tinypic.com/2a5hg1g.jpg
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08. [SPOILERS for Thor: The Dark World]



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09. [SPOILERS for True Blood]



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10. [SPOILERS for Kill la Kill]



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11. [SPOILERS for Sons of Anarchy]



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13. [WARNING for incest]

[How I Live Now]


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Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
^^^^^^^^^

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
not. fucking. ever.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Came here expecting the thread to be filled with this. Very disappointed in you F!S that it is not. :P

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Sure. Don't hit someone unless you're prepared for retaliation. This is why we use our words like adults.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Uh? I guess so? I mean ideally no one would be fighting, but at that point (assuming the assault is continuing) then it would just be self-defense.

Which brings up the point of why is there slapping going on in a fight? You're gonna assault someone without their consent, you may as well go all-out.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
To defend themselves, okay, but really, people shouldn't be slapping other people, unless they're both in to that sort thing.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Depends. I think it is stupid for anyone to slap someone back in a "slap fight".

That being said, if the woman is being physically abusive the man has a right to defend himself. His best bet would be to try and restrain her or push her away. Slapping won't do all that much generally. A punch might stun them enough for you to try and get away.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
no.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much agree with the above anon.

If a person is threatened and in a dangerous situation you do what you gotta do to get away.

But in a general non-life threatening or severe situation, I don't think it's appropriate to fight back with violence no matter the gender. Someone slaps you in the face then that person doesn't respect you and doesn't deserve your time or the minimal amount of energy even a return slap would require. Walk away.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
No - though it's not acceptable for her to slap him either, tbh.

Where I'm from - and yes, I actually remember a bunch of us getting together and talking about this when I was younger for some reason - the general attitude in situations like that is that the guy should restrain the woman to prevent her from hurting him, but not hurt her.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I find that slapping, as a general rule, is ill-advised.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
If they are of equal physical strength, then go ahead, but I'd prefer that no-one slaps anyone.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
idk...I guess if they're relatively the same size or something. I mean, if she was a tiny woman and he's some big, hulking dude then he's likely to hurt her a lot more by slapping her than she would hurt him. Still, I don't think anyone should hit their SO regardless of gender (I mean, unless the gesture is obviously playful or part of some consensual sex thing or whatever)

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
No. Be a fucking adult and walk away. Disengage. This applies to any situation whether it is a man hitting a woman after being slapped or vice versa.

Better yet, it would be better if you tried not to hit anyone.
philstar22: (Spike/Dru)

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-03-01 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
It depends. I think equal force is acceptable. But if its just a gentle slap or if she's significantly physically weaker than him, then he can't use his greater strength against her. He can slap her just as hard or push her away. I don't buy that a man can never defend himself against a woman, but I also don't buy that as an excuse if she really isn't hurting him and he's clearly the one being more violent.

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
If someone attacks you, it is acceptable to take whatever measures are necessary to defend yourself from harm, regardless of your gender or your attacker's. (Note that grossly disproportionate violence is not necessary to protect yourself from harm.) But slapping someone solely in retaliation for slapping you is childish and accomplishes nothing, so no, that would not be acceptable.

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
This is, of course, leaving aside consensual, negotiated BDSM scenarios in which the participants respect one another's desires, boundaries, and safety. Those are okay.
darkmanifest: (Default)

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-03-01 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. If a man slaps a woman, I'd want her to disengage without further violence if she can and defend herself from further injury if she can't, not slap him back or kung-fu him through a window or some shit. Same if a woman slaps a man. Fighting just for the hell of it is only cute between little kids or in movies, not between adults who are capable of doing each other serious harm if things escalate.
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Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-03-01 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't acceptable for anyone to slap anyone ever*, so no it's not okay to slap a woman back, nor is it okay to slap a man back or a child or an animal. Violence isn't okay, if you said is it okay to defend yourself from an attack then yes you can hit someone. If someone slapped me I wouldn't slap them back as that isn't a dangerous situation, I would ask them what the fuck they are doing and/or walk away, it is only in situations when that isn't possible it is acceptable to hit back.

One slap does not put you in any danger, it is not a threat, if someone hit you with the intent to actually seriously injuring you then it is a different story.

*Except when it is done with consent and enjoyment and all that jazz

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
If it's required in order to defend yourself, sure.

If it's just in retaliation or some misguided belief in tit for tat, that's going to be a lot harder to argue. In the majority of cases, the woman is probably not going to be as physically powerful as the man. You do not get to retaliate against parties who are physically weaker than you, which is also why, if you are a man and the stronger person in the equation, you also shouldn't punch:

1) senior citizens of either gender
2) men who are younger and physically weaker than you
3) a disabled person whose disability makes them physically less capable than you
4) kids, no matter how awful or shitty they are

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-03-01 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, depends on the situation. Would I hit a person back if they hit me once and I deserved it/they were trying to revive me? Probably not.

But if someone is actively attacking me and I have exhausted all other options to de-escalate the situation, then yeah, at that point you have forfeited my social courtesy and I am going to respond with extreme prejudice.
mekkio: (Default)

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-03-01 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe in a slapping contest? A Slap-off?

mekkio: (Default)

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-03-01 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Also, it depends on the situation. Say a nurse in her twenties, at the peak of her health and strength, starts to physically abuse her elderly patients. She slaps a frail ninety year old man. Now, if he slaps her back to defend himself, is he in the wrong?

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Never say never, but in most cases, probably not.

OTOH, just because something's not acceptable doesn't always mean it's not understandable. I can imagine scenarios in which I'd say "Dude, that wasn't cool, but I get why you did it."

Re: Is it ever acceptable for a man to slap a woman if she slaps him?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.

1 - People (of any gender) who dish it out should be prepared to take it
2- People (of any gender) have the right to fight back if they're being attacked or abused
3- Gender-based morality arguments don't do anyone any good. Telling a man to "take it like a man" is just as oppressive as telling a woman to "act like a little lady."

Though I'd have much more respect for a slappee (of any gender) who resolves the situation by, for example, laying on a verbal smackdown so epic it leaves the slapper whimpering in defeat in a corner...