[ SECRET POST #2619 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2619 ⌋

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[Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes]


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[Pushing Daisies]


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[Dallas Buyers Club]


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[Bravely Default]


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[Fake & Kuroko no Basuke]


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[Warehouse 13]


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[Willem Dafoe]


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[Dexter]


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[Rooster Teeth]


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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/RGpZ7cM.png
[Warehouse 13]

[unicornherds]

Haha, I have thought that a time or two and I'm not even a hoarder. They just have such a well organized and gigantic storage facility, it would be so handy!

Do people really hate hoarders? That's sad.

[(Anonymous)]

I think they're just alluding to the fact that actual hoarding freaks people out. I don't think anyone hates hoarders, they're just disturbed by people who live like the hoarders shown on TV.

[diet_poison]

I also doubt most "hoarders" are as bad as the hoarders on TV.

[(Anonymous)]

For sure.

Also, I got accused of being a hoarder once. It was really annoying. My housemate, who owned a not inconsiderable amount of stuff herself, gave me an article about hoarders to "help me". I had crap I'd collected off kerbsides in my room and the shed out back cos I had no money, and I'd use it for furniture or to do arty stuff with, and this apparently meant I had a problem. Gaah.

[(Anonymous)]

Most likely.

The ones on TV often have things decaying amid the sea of unsorted stuff that covers the floor in every room - rotting food, unwashed dishes, fast food wrappers, animal droppings, even dead animals. That's not just a matter of having a lot of stuff. They also usually are on the verge of losing custody of their children or pets, or being evicted, or having their partners walk out on them. There's usually a larger psychological problem at work and the consequences have become far more significant than merely being disapproved of.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

It seems so, with shows like "buried alive" and whatnot. Anyway I saw a few parts of it, and it just bothers me greatly. I do not like reality in general, but this just seems a particularly invasive way of putting pople on show.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, OP. There's an implicit understanding between the viewers and the producers that the hoarders on the show are freaks to be gawked at.

[(Anonymous)]

Not necessarily hate, but I certainly wouldn't want to live in the same building. Those piles of crap attract rodents and other vermin, and they are a massive fire hazard.

[(Anonymous)]

Most people have piles of flammable crap, and human habitation attracts vermin.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who had to clean the whole apartment after my deceased hoarder grandfather (dead mice everywhere) with my own two hands, and as someone who at one point will face cleaning another apartment after my hoarding parents - yes, I can safely say I dislike hoarders. I know it's not entirely their fault, but I hate how inconsiderate and irrational they can be. Their mess is affecting other people and they don't care.

[(Anonymous)]

See I divide the action from the person. I hate smoking but I don't hate smokers. I had OCD but I don't hate my friend with OCD. I hate eating disorders but I don't hate my friend with bulimia. Admittedly I've never dealt with true hoarders, and I can imagine the frustrating and emotional turmoil, but I'd like to think that I still wouldn't hate the person.

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you get help, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

...and, I was actually expecting this! I don't particularly want to. I'm happy as I am, and don't want to get rid of my stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah if you're happy and people around you are pretty happy, why the fuck should you change? There's a presumption of "fix the aberration" there. Some people like living out of a shoebox - are they necessarily needing help?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Okay, so I admit my initial comment comes off as patronising. To expand/qualify, if your hoarding is affecting other people in your life, animals, or your own health/ safety, I hope things change for you. Also, from my layman's understanding, anxiety and/or compulsive behaviour underlies a lot of hoarding, so if that is true for you I hope at some point that eases for you so you don't feel like you 'have' to keep the stuff you have, and can be content to just 'want' it.

But of course I don't know anything about your actual situation, so this is all general sentiment about the issue. I made my initial comment though because I live with a mild hoarder myself, and have a friend with a mother who is an extreme hoarder, so I have seen how hoarding can really detrimentally affect families and relationships, and how the hoarder in question can often live in denial of this.

As for reality TV shows about extreme hoarders, though I do find them occasionally morbidly fascinating but I agree that they're more modern freak show than helpful investigative reality TV.
(Though, on a tangential note, the documentary based on this story: http://www.surreymirror.co.uk/Westcott-hoarder-Richard-Wallace-inspires-local/story-16705900-detail/story.html was quite a heartwarming story though, but mainly because it exposed the hypocrisy of some of the village, and the crux of the story was when a neighbour decided to offer to help Richard clean up his garden - only if he wanted help - and the friendship the two men formed following that.)

[(Anonymous)]

Do you hoard food? My mother hoards food. Never hoard food. Trust me.

[eaten_by_bears]

I thought part of the definition of hoarding was that it had to be pathological. Like, if you have a lot of stuff but it's not causing any problems, you're not a hoarder.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL, now I'm thinking that, too. I wish I had that much storage room...

[lunabee34]

I don't hate hoarders.

My grandmother was a hoarder before she went to live with my parents. She had milk jugs from the 70s piled up in her attic, piles of fabric that had rotted and turned to dust when touched, and she had her lawn mower in the middle of her living room at the end. She struggled with depression and dementia, and it made me very sad that a woman who had worked so hard all her life and was fiercely independent lived in conditions that were so uncomfortable to her and which she was powerless to change without outside intervention. :(

hoarders =/= messy

[(Anonymous)]

for me, there's a difference between hoarder and messy. my parents are definitely messies, they keep broken stuff and don't know where anything is-

I see myself as more of a hoarder, partly because I never learned to dispose of stuff, partly because my place just seems empty without stuff. You can keep stuff in order though, then I think it's probably ok.

Re: hoarders =/= messy

[(Anonymous)]

True, but there's also a fairly large overlap, because there's a point at which the amount of stuff you've accumulated is too great for you to be able to keep it in order without a massive effort.

Re: hoarders =/= messy

[(Anonymous)]

Accumulating tons of stuff is OK I suppose but when it becomes a health hazard to yourself or your community it crosses a line. My neighbor who was evicted from her house turned out to be a hoarder and it was one of the saddest things I've ever seen to see the MASSIVE amount of stuff that ended up on the front lawn. She came back with a friend and a little truck and was able to put some of it in and leave but left bags and bags and bags of rotting and broken items behind.

Re: hoarders =/= messy

[(Anonymous)]

I consider myself a hoarder because it's pretty much impossible for me to get rid of things. I relate to things in ways most people don't. Like, I'd cry over them, maybe mourn them for years - much like some people would a beloved pet. That's the best I can explain.

Hell, it goes to the point where it bothers me when OTHER people toss out things.

Also there is an anxiety element tied to it, but that sort of goes in waves, and is stronger at times than others.

Another reason why I consider it hoarding is because I basically have more stuff than I can house, and I do have boxes in living areas.

Re: hoarders =/= messy

[(Anonymous)]

Are we twins, anon? Because yes, I gnash my teeth when people tell me "It's just stuff!" To me, it's never ~just stuff. And I tend to be really distressed by the idea of getting rid of things--it seems almost that they have as good a right to be there as I do. And I live in a house that three generations of my family have lived in, and I don't think any of us have ever voluntarily thrown anything away.