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⌈ Secret Post #2632 ⌋

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Patrick Stump / Fall Out Boy]

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[Men in Black, Agent Coulson]

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[Twin Peaks]

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[Defenders of Berk/How To Train Your Dragon 2]

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[Lily Allen]

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[Attack on Titan]

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[The Brittas Empire]

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[Panic! at the Disco]

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[Frozen]

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It is weirdly under-popular for what would be expected. Then again, so are Reiner ships--he's only ever put with Bertholdt or Annie, when Reiner/Eren or Reiner/Armin would have some presence you would think. You would think Eremin would be bigger too but it's not.

idk. What's shipped for this series seems to defy expectation.

The lack of Eren/Armin also surprises me. And the lack of Eren/Armin/Mikasa. I thought fandom would be all over them as an OT3, but it's just not there.

The lack of Eren x Mikasa is weird too. I hate the pairing, but it's the cliche main guy x main girl everyone usually ships by default.

You'd think that ship would be the most popular as it gets the most canon screentime, but there is so little fandom for it.

Yeah, you think it would be at least a little bit more prominent in fandom. (I have mixed feelings about Eren/Mikasa, but it really grew on me, and I wish there was more of it.)

Edited 2014-03-19 00:33 (UTC)

I blame Levi on this one.

Actually, I feel like SnK fell right into every popular ship I would have expected. Main character x bad ass favorite. Commander x his right hand soldier (pun not intended). Canon or nearly canon femslash couple. Eremin not being a thing doesn't surprise me at all, I can't think of any popular protag/best friend pairings. Was Harry/Ron ever a big thing?

And Reiner, Bertholdt, and Annie come as a set for plot reasons. I could see Reiner/Eren or Reiner/Armin if their "rivalry" was more personal and charged, but it kind of...isn't? In fact it's almost decidedly NOT personal. Takes all the fun out of shipping protag/antag.

What? Best friends is one of the most popular types of pairing along with rivals.

If you say so, but I'm looking at my anime collection, and I can't think of an anime fandom I've been in where protag/his best friend came close to "canon love interest" or "rival" in terms of shipping (except in cases where the protag's best friend IS his rival). But my intake is almost all shonen where the rivalry is practically the point of the show.

Eren and Armin have virtually no tension between them, so it doesn't surprise me that the pairing hasn't taken off.

+1 to both points. I'm also trying to think of protag/best friend ships and mostly coming up blank.
Hell, even in Teen Wolf Scott/Stiles isn't the most popular, and that's a Western fandom. The Road to El-Dorado, maybe - pretty sure in that one the two main guys are the main ship, and they're best friends.

And agreed on lack of tension. I mean, Armin feels like a bit of a try-hard character in terms of making him ~so intelligent (pet peeve), but the only scene I can think of them that was at all interesting was back in episode 5 or whenever (you know the spoiler).

Off the top of my head from fandoms I've been in or know a decent amount about: Haruka and Makoto from Free! (considerably more popular than Rin/Haru), Masayoshi and Gotou from Samurai Flamenco, Ban and Ginji from Getbackers, Kotetsu and Barnaby from Tiger & Bunny (although I suppose you could argue Barnaby's the canon love interest, haha)...uhh, I haven't really been in many popular anime fandoms.

Outside of anime there's Sherlock and John from Sherlock, obviously (and Holmes/Watson from Sherlock Holmes in general), House and Wilson and House, Snake and Otacon from MGS, Sora and Riku from Kingdom Hearts (they were rivals, or at least Riku wanted them to be, for the first couple of games but they're far from it now), Stan and Kyle from South Park (god why), Rigby and Mordecai from Regular show, Miguel and Tulio as that other anon mentioned, and shitloads of comic pairings (eg. Blue Beetle and Booster Gold or Tim/Kon, Steve and Tony gets treated like a best friends pairing even though it's not really).

This is obviously far from an exhaustive list, just the first things that came to mind.

Hmm, Kotetsu/Barnaby doesn't count imo because they start as rivals before they become close, so that's shitloads of tension there and not really comparable to an "always best friends" situation.
I don't know Free! so I can't comment, and haven't seen Getbackers, but isn't Getbackers like... crazy slashy with Ban and Ginji? All the promo art looks like a yaoi. So there's heavy pushing in that direction, which is also different from a "just best friends~" situation that isn't being pushed for yaoi-baiting.
I will give you Masayoshi/Gotou, but I still think that their dynamic doesn't fall into the "best friends" type. I think that Best Friends is different from characters just Being Friends. Like, I don't actually think their relationship is particularly comparable to Eren and Armin.

Again, anything that's mucking with Rival/Not Rival?? dynamics is different because Eren and Armin are not rivals at all by any stretch.

But you bring up some interesting examples.

So basically what I'm getting from this is you don't think "best friends" is a popular pairing type because you've given it an artificially narrow definition. Like, it's so incredibly narrow it's completely pointless.

They're not allowed to have any tension (at any point), they can't have ship baiting, and they have to be comparable to Eren and Armin? I'm not even sure what that last one means.

Like, what is even left? Eren and Armin don't count under your definition because imo they've had a shitload of baiting. Almost as much as Ymir/Krista and Mikasa/Eren.

free?

Eh, I'd argue that Erwin's right hand soldier is actually Hanji. and Erwin x Hanji is definitely not a popular ship.

I agree about Reiner and Eren's interactions coming off as impersonal, especially when you compare the way they acted to Annie and Eren.

Eremin not being a thing doesn't surprise me at all, I can't think of any popular protag/best friend pairings. Was Harry/Ron ever a big thing?

I was in Beyblade fandom and one of the big pairings was Tyson/Max, which is pretty much idiot protagonist/cheerful best friend. Part of that was because Kai/Rei was the juggernaut pairing for so long, and it was the natural other ship for them to have, but it was popular in its own right as well. I never realized it was an outlier.

(What I have discovered from this conversation is that I watch too much anime with girl protagonists, apparently, because I can't even think of that many other ones I'm familiar with that even have the male protagonist/best friend ship possible.)

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