[ SECRET POST #2643 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2643 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I love reading about financial struggles. And I'm well off. So, sorry I'm one of that people who likes romanticizing such things. In my defense I give to local homeless charities. And I get the difference between reality and writing.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

oops, misfire. I'll just post it where it should've gone to.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

here do you need some help patting yourself on the ass

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. What about romanticized poverty appeals to you? I can't imagine someone well off wanting to be even as poor as I am, and I have a roof over my head. I have massive dental problems that might eventually kill me that I can't afford to get treated, for example, and my family's house is falling down around our ears because we can't afford to get anything repaired. Sometimes when our gas and electricity get cut off, I heat water on our wood stove and wash out of a bucket. I know lots of other people who put off necessary medical care from lack of funds, or who live in fear of missing a day of work because they could be fired, or who live in their cars and have to wash up as best they can in public restrooms. New clothes are a luxury I feel guilty about, and for some of my friends, fresh fruit and vegetables or meat not out of a can are too. What about that sounds appealing? (I'd reply to this where you reposted it, except I didn't see you repost it anywhere.)

Re: Classism in fandom

[dethtoll]

I can't imagine someone well off wanting to be even as poor as I am

I can. I've met them. They are the worst people alive. Don't even get me started on freeganism.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Oh Jesus don't remind me of them. I live in Seattle, I have to live with those douchebags on a daily basis.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

...I have no idea what "freeganism" is and probably don't want to, but if there are well-to-do people out there who really want to be poor, they are welcome to donate to me any excess money that's bothering them.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

People with well-paying jobs who basically dumpster dive for everything, and try and get everything they can for free. Even though they can afford new stuff, and the stuff they "freeganate" (?? isthataword) is basically no longer available for those poor enough who could really use it.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

O.o da here

I just wikipedia'd Freeganism. Wow.

I don't actually think there's anything wrong, philosophically, with wanting to separate yourself from materialism. I don't know if I can respect someone with plenty of money dumpster diving, but I don't really buy that dumpsters are the sole sustainable factor for people in poverty and a few rich kids taking half eaten burgers are directly harming the poor... but whatever. I still don't really understand this movement as I only glanced at the wikipedia page, but pro-environment, anti-materialistic efforts don't scream "Docuhebag" to me?

probably better off donating money to a charity who knows what they are doing, but...

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

The thing is, they're not pro-environment, nor anti-materialistic..they're just unnecessary cheapskates.

FTR, my family fostered abandoned and abused furniture left on the side of the road for many years when I was growing up...but we definitely were NOT "freegans" by choice.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

If they're the worst people alive, you must live a pretty sheltered life, lol.

Oh no, people misguidedly but benignly trying to do the right thing!

Re: Classism in fandom

[dethtoll]

Punch yourself in the face and then go look up hyperbole. Then punch yourself in the face again.

Also, they're not trying to "do the right thing" at all.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god, if you honestly think that freegans are trying to do the right thing in any way, shape, or form, I genuinely fear for your ability to judge character.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think enjoying any fandom tropes is bad? Like no one blames people who read fanfics about royalty.
I like added drama. It's romantic in a sense that adventuring with only a tent, a blanket and a pan is romantic. Overcoming difficulties.
Honestly, I don't even see a problem here. I see why you personally wouldn't like this trope as you face similar things on a daily basis. I don't like sick!fics because it hits too close to home. Is it about misrepresentation?

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all? A lot of things can be interesting, or even "romantic" when you're not there - that's the point. I'd imagine being a soldier in war, being in prison, being trapped on a deserted island - whatever, a lot of things can be fun to imagine and even seem exciting, when in reality they suck.

Of course, a lot of people are actually homeless and living in poverty, and it is extremely important to know the difference between this fantasy of ~freedom~ and the harsh reality of it. But as long as you can separate fantasies from reality... and that applies to pretty much any category of fiction.

Re: Classism in fandom

[(Anonymous)]

yes, this.