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[ SECRET POST #2676 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2676 ⌋

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game of thrones, "crappy"? oh man, i don't mind people liking shows i like, but that's just hilarious. dude, just because you don't like the show, it doesn't mean it's crap. quality is objective; taste is not.

I would argue, the definition of crappy being: of extremely poor quality, that at least parts of GoT qualify. Yes, the acting is mostly good. Yes, is obviously packed the brim with money. But honestly, I found most of the writing in the third season subpar and overly reliant on sexposition and cheap shocks.

nudity has always been prominent in got. i didn't note anything different about s3 in that regard. and imo the writing in that particular season didn't strike me as lesser than in the other seasons.

And it's fine that it didn't strike you the same way it did me. I didn't say that it unequivocally and empirically was worse. I said it was to me. And it was, to the point that I'm not watching season 4.

You of course being the authority on all things quality.

i said "i didn't note" and "imo". do you need any more indicators that i'm stating my opinion? jesus christ.

I just think it's hilarious that you're allowed to opine all over the place, but oh good gracious, OP need to learn the difference between quality and taste from Prof. Tea.

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The acting is pretty good and production quality is definitely a bit lavish. But the quality of the writing definitely lacks something. The story fits together, but it's a little slipshod and clumsy and it's definitely got some rough edges. The dialogue is pretty blah-blah-blah-THING sometimes, too, and doesn't really do much by way of characterisation.
And the profusion of squicky sex scenes: if you have to rely on that much porn to keep your audience interested, you've failed miserably as a storyteller.

Me, I like the show despite all its obvious shortcomings, and I couldn't quite call it crappy (the non-crappy outbalances the crappy). But it is riddled with shortcomings, and if the acting doesn't outweight the bad writing for you, then yes, you could call it crappy.

Everybody pull over, the language police are here! It should be patently obvious to anyone who isn't out to be a smug ass that secrets like this are referring to the OP's personal opinion, regardless of whether they put out a neon sign proclaiming it so.

dude, it's obvious that op doesn't give a shit about the fans of the show since they're openly insulting it. so yeah, i'm gonna be a smug ass about it.

WTF does OPs opinion on fans have to do with anything? But you get down with your smug self if that's what you need to do to feel like a big shot.

I fail to understand why OP's personal opinion should show care for the fans of a show. The two things aren't related. That's like saying, "The milk-haters of the world should "give a shit" (to use your phrasing) about the milk-lovers since they're "openly insulting it." The milk-lovers "have a right to be smug assholes" to the milk-haters! and everyone else!"

Seriously. The disconnect there is epic. And for someone who "doesn't mind people disliking shows that you like" you're pretty defensive about a secret from someone who doesn't like your show. Or are you only okay with it if they don't tell anyone they dislike your baby?

All of this, pretty much.

also "i don't mind people liking shows i like" should be "i don't mind people disliking shows i like"

ever since yesterday i keep making dumb typos. ugh.

Edited 2014-05-01 23:33 (UTC)

Guess what? It's crappy.

You could argue about the costumes, acting etc. But the WRITING on GOT is indeed crappy. It's inconsistent, sloppy and not very well thought through. That's pretty much the definition of crappy writing. People just ignore it because of shiny costumes and dragons and cool one-liners.

You should watch more shows. Crappy writing is Glee or Supernatural. GoT is more average than crap.

nope. definitely crappy. just because there's other crappy things out there, doesn't make other crap less crappy.

and geez, better writing than glee is not much of a accolade.

Above average crap is still crap. The writing on Supernatural is amazingly, astoundingly, spectacularly crappy. The writing on GoT is just sorta crappy. The fact that GoT's writing is better than a lot of shows out there says something about the abysmal state of popular entertainment, and nothing about the quality of GoT itself.

And I know I've been spoiled on some very very good writing and I have outlandishly high standards, and I can still watch and even enjoy things that are borderline crappy, but that doesn't mean I don't know bad writing when it's hiding under good acting and lavish production values.

Edited 2014-05-02 16:30 (UTC)

Lol not OP, but I definitely think GoT is crappy. Poor quality in almost every aspect. Come at me bro

Taste is subjective and your idea of quality is based on your tastes, therefore quality is subjective, as well. Personally, I think it's well put together in terms of setting and production, but I think that much of the plot and characterization is so bad, I would call it crappy. That's my opinion and it's not better than yours, and your opinion is no better than mine.

therefore quality is subjective, as well.

Yes. This.

Taste is subjective and your idea of quality is based on your tastes, therefore quality is subjective, as well.

This so much.

"Taste is subjective and your idea of quality is based on your tastes"

If you can't distinguish between good and bad and can judge things from an objective point of view, that's your problem. But anyone who isn't a self-centered kid can distinguish between good and bad and acknowledge that something you like might be bad, and that things that you dislike can be good. So no, quality isn't subjective.

I disagree, sort of - to some extent, quality is objective. I mean, I could make a fantasy series in my back yard, complete with boobs and red paint blood splatters, and you might like it better than GoT but it is probably not better in quality.

That being said, I think GoT is objectively crap. It's not half as clever as it thinks it is, and relies on gratuity and shock value to make it interesting. Yes, the books did, too. Was a lot of work put into it? Sure, and that is fair. But that doesn't make the writing, plot or characters good.

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