[ SECRET POST #2682 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2682 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #383.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[forgottenjester]

Aha, aw. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's a crack ship with nothing to it. I'm sorry you got unintentionally trolled hard by the delusional part of fandom.

[queerwolf]

They're not exactly a crack ship and people who do see something between them aren't trolling everybody else and are hardly delusional.

Sorry, but I'm sick of people saying the fandom made them expect more from this ship and that "there's nothing there!"

[forgottenjester]

1) Crack ship is a broad term and in my definition it is one.
2) People who think it's canon are delusional and that's who I was referring to. I have seen people who ship it go into full analyzation of 5 seconds as "proof" of their relationship. I casually ship it too but you have to admit there are some seriously delusional Sterek fans in the fandom. Period.

I didn't get into Teen Wolf for that reason. So I don't really care. You're not upsetting me. I got into it because my friend Nef said it was a shitty show I would love watching with her. She was right.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean like the fans that insist that you can tell how in love Stiles and Derek are because look at the way Stiles presses his lips in this scene! GOD HOW BLATANT CAN YOU BE, STILES. CONTROL YOUR LOVE BONER.

[forgottenjester]

YES. OH MY GOSH WHY WOULDN'T HE HOLD DEREK UP FOR SO LONG IN THE WATER IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP HIS BONES! IT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION! ALSO, DID YOU SEE HOW DEREK SHOVED STILES INTO THE WALL SOFTLY SO STILES WOULDN'T REALLY BE HURT?! HE REALLY CARES!

Like, seriously, I've seen them talk about how Stiles looking up at Derek in a certain way while Derek was shoving him up against a wall proved that they were into each other.

[queerwolf]

You're so right that there are so many people who insist they're canon. It's kinda why I stay away from the Tumblr side of fandom.

I'm usually able to let this stuff not bother me, but I see this reaction so often and I momentarily saw red. I'm not even angry, just resigned.

[forgottenjester]

Same here.

I get ya, my friend. I get ya. I hope this makes you feel better.

[dancing_serpent]

1) Crack ship is a broad term and in my definition it is one.

Haha, yeah, that got me into trouble/discussions a few times already. Because my definition is a lot different - examples for what I consider crack ships are Harry/Hogwarts, Snape/Giant Squid, or Stiles/his Jeep.

It would never occur to me to call Sterek a crack ship, because they are two actual characters on the same show who do sometimes interact with each other.

[forgottenjester]

Eh, I don't really consider this trouble. Once I explained my view everyone was like, "Oh, okay." Because everyone really does use the term to mean completely different things all the time. Heck, I've seen people call Destiel a crack ship and that's not something that would fit my definition. I haven't really ever seen a conversation about it where a group of people were all using it the same way. It's like the term Mary Sue. Everyone's got a different definition.

[(Anonymous)]

I understand why you'd feel that way. And I don't think anyone that ships anything is delusional, because...the point of shipping is to smush two people together, so, whatever.

But, as someone that gave TW a shot because of all the shouting about Sterek Moments and Feelings and this and that, I gotta say. For me, there really wasn't anything. And I went in looking for it. I would consider it a crack ship, and that is okay! I love crack ships!

[queerwolf]

Like I just told jester, I stay away from the Tumblr side of fandom because there *are* people there that think sterek is canon and make it out to be more than it is. I feel bad for people who start watching cause they think it's a huge canon ship full of moments.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, in a normal shipping sense.. but putting it like "see something between them" is delusional, because it's purely fanon.

Sterek is not a crack ship. Definitely not. I can see the appeal of why people like it. It has basis for people to ship it. But that has nothing to do with something being "between" them in the canon. You can literally say that about any pair of people who interact if you look really hard. You like a pair because they would be hot, or you like how they interact/their personalities would go together in a hypothetical romance. But that has nothing to do with canon because it's in your head/fanon.

I absolutely am horrid at communicating, sorry!

[queerwolf]

When I talk about seeing something between them I mean chemistry. I think the actors have tons of chemistry and that translates to the characters having good interactions. I don't think they're canon or ever will be but I enjoy their scenes and translate that to romantic chemistry for fic purposes.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, sorry for kinda misunderstanding! That makes sense.

"translate that to romantic chemistry" is a really good definition of shipping. It's not there romantically in the actual canons, but it's easy to translate. Haha

[(Anonymous)]

...what's your definition of crack ship, out of curiosity?

[(Anonymous)]

An unusual relationship of any kind of fandom (i.e. books, television shows, movies, ect.) that is unlikely to happen. In fact a person must be on crack to even support such a relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

So...most slash or femslash ships, I'm guessing? That's not a good definition, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like I'm enforcing it on anyone else...? It suits me, and I don't see why it should bother anyone else.

[forgottenjester]

One where the characters don't really interact on any meaningful level. I don't think Stiles and Derek are around each other enough and what scenes they do have don't hold enough meaning or importance to their own character. *shrug*

Not that a crack ship is bad. I like 'em. Keeps me young.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, okay. :)

[forgottenjester]

Yuppers. You need anything else you let me know. ;)

[(Anonymous)]

they have chemistry tho. not romantic, but like idk they are such contrasting characters their interactions are always fun to watch.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with your definition and that's the spirit in which I used that term in the secret--it's not like they've never talked to each other, but they barely talk to each other.

I guess I should have thought more about my wording because I didn't realize it would cause any arguments. :S

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I've got a friend who ships this and the fic for it is fun to read but there is NOTHING in the show to support it. They barely speak to each other.

[forgottenjester]

Pretty much.