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[ SECRET POST #2694 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2694 ⌋

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[General Hospital]

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[Homestuck, The Other Woman, Pacific Rim, Naruto, X-Men]

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[The Ear, the Eye and the Arm]

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[Warehouse 13]

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[Alton Brown and Anthony Bourdain]

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[YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of This World]

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[Magic: the Gathering]

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Blaming the breed is never right. Blame the specific dog, blame the owners who fucked it up, but never blame an entire breed for the actions of a few.

I really hope this isn't a controversial opinion. o.O

Several places have banned dog breeds.

It's not uncommon.

British media, across the political spectrum, will quite happily demonise whichever dog breed has been involved in a fatal attack. And the letters pages will be filled with outraged comments from people who want that entire breed and their owners to be killed on sight.

I'm not exaggerating on that, btw. There was one comment in a certain tabloid paper that wanted the dogs' owners to be killed alongside the dogs. I think it was after a pack of staffies, that were known to be aggressive, killed a teenager... who walked into the room they were penned up in carrying a hot meat pie.

Here in Liverpool, a newspaper recently reported that a bunch of 'gangster-owned' banned breeds were seized and euthanised. I work in a local animal shelter, and I know they had nothing to do with gangsters. They were family pets who'd previously been put on the Dangerous Dogs Act's exemption list, because they'd passed a temperament test and were known to be safe with people. Some were old, at least one was disabled. Family pets, rounded up and slaughtered in service to pointless hysteria.

That's utterly sickening. D:

arrrrrgggghhhhhhh. Why, people.

So irrational and ignorant.

And I hate stories like that last bit too, where animals are demonized for behaving exactly like you'd predict them to behave. Not saying it's not tragic - it really is - but it's also not their "fault". Learn how to behave around animals, for srs folks.

That story makes me think of a guy I once knew from church. He worked as a security guard and had security-trained dogs. We had a couple of church social evenings at his place and each time people had to come in and go out, he had to make sure the dogs were secured.

The thing about your story of the teen with a pie is that I would have enough sense not to dare g out while the guard dogs of the guy from church were loose in his yard. Some people however don't have that good sense, especially when they are young.

My controversial reply: some breeds were actively bred for added aggressiveness, and ignoring that doesn't do anybody any favors.

ayrt

Then maybe breeders should be trying to reverse that? Breed the dogs that are docile and friendly, desex the ones that aren't so no one can breed from them. We bred those traits into them, so maybe it's up to us to breed them out.

This.

EVERY animal should be judged individually. But that doesn't mean some breeds aren't more likely to have certain traits. Labs? Golden retrievers? If you feel comfortable generalizing those breeds, while recognizing that it's only a generalization and not a rule, then why pretend pit bulls or other breeds aren't more likely to have certain traits?

Demonizing a breed is stupid, of course. and I don't think there's anything to be done for it except be careful about what animals we are breeding.

I've known people who had pet pit bulls that were total sweeties who would never hurt anybody. they just wanted to play all the time.

What, like German shepherds?

Fun fact: animals used in dogfighting are specifically selected NOT to be human-aggressive, because handlers need to be able to wade into the ring and pull the dogs apart. They choose dogs that actively want to please their handlers, and will do as they're trained to do, even when that includes tearing another dog apart.

Yup! To call out the omg!so!oppressed breed du jour, I would never, ever, EVER own a pit bull. I've owned German Shepherds, Rottweilers, a Rhodesian Ridgeback and a Great Dane...I don't have an issue with all sorts of breeds that are generally perceived as scary. They're big ol' teddy bears. Protective teddy bears, but still. The only breed I've ever had any sort of issue with is pit bulls. My sister and I were both attacked by different pit bulls when we were kids. I have a friend now who bought a pit bull and had NO idea what he was getting into. The damn thing is so energetic/hyperactive and so strong that he's afraid to have guests over. Sorry, but. Some breeds have a bad reputation for a reason.

And yet pitbulls were nanny dogs, soooo...

And people should seriously consider whether they know how to train a dog with those traits before they get one of those breeds.

I do believe someone who knows how to handle one of the "aggressive" breeds can raise and train them well enough that they aren't an instant danger.

Though I agree every other dog in a breed shouldn't be blamed for one dog's actions, I also don't think that the continued breeding of dogs (that can be bought as domestic pets) that not only have a vicious temperament but also have the strength to do significant harm is fair on the animal or society.

I honestly can't think of a single commonly-owned breed of dog that I would describe as having a vicious temperament.

I can!

Chihuahuas. I'd call them mutated rats, but that would be an insult to rats everywhere!

~~Okay, I am joking a little, but seriously, they're the only type of dog I've ever been bitten by~~.

DA

God, I can't stand chihuahuas. They're ugly, noisy little bastards.

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loracarol - 2014-05-20 02:12 (UTC) - Expand

This really does not surprise me tho.

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loracarol - 2014-05-20 20:33 (UTC) - Expand

You're damn right, anon.

Agreed, and I would like to add that this goes for smaller breeds as well as large. As the owner of a small dog (because I haven't got the room for a large one) it really bugs me how whenever there's an article or something about a large dog maiming someone inevitably a bunch of people jump in with "But [insert breed here] are the cutest sweetest things ever! People shouldn't stereotype an entire breed! And anyway cocker spaniels are fucking maniacs." If you think you shouldn't stereotype an entire breed when one maims someone to death I don't see why it's okay to then stereotype a different breed because your aunt's chihuahua bit your finger once and didn't even break the skin. (Also, I say this as someone who once owned a cocker spaniel that was a fucking maniac.)

Cocker spaniels tend to get grumpy as they get older.

Really? I owned one and she mellowed out as she got older.

There's Rage Syndrome, but that's genetic and fairly rare.

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