[ SECRET POST #2716 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2716 ⌋

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Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

If you really want to try to stop school shootings, they have to be political issues. A thousand rounds of "please don't hurt people" clearly isn't doing it.

Re: School shooting tw

[quirkytizzy]

+1 million

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

No. Spreading misinformation and rumors about the victims before we know anything about them in the name of your political movement is the opposite of helpful. See: "the UCSB shooter killed seven women because of misogyny!"

He killed four men, two women and himself. Nice job erasing the victims for your politics.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Clearly we have different ideas on what it means to make a political issue of things. Because what you describe is not at all what I'm talking about.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind people acknowledging why it happened, or the genuinely political issues surrounding the shooting, but I am hoping that people will wait until we have some goddamn facts before turning it into a political circlejerk.

Re: School shooting tw

[ibbity]

He only killed three of those men because they were his roommates and he didn't want them interfering with his mass killing plans. Also, the number of female victims would have been WAY higher if the sorority house he went to, planning to kill all the sisters, had let him in instead of keeping the door shut when he arrived. There's also the part where he wrote a huge long manifesto about how women were the root of all evil because they wouldn't have sex with him and if he was going to kill men it was because they were getting to have sex with the women. So yes, hatred of women, i.e. misogyny, WAS his stated reason. You might want to check your facts a little bit. Obviously it's stupid to invent false victim numbers, but even so.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I'm sorry, he only killed three men because they were his roommate, silly me, I thought that their death's mattered, but I forgot, they're men.

And yeah, so what if his planned kill was higher, he didn't succeed, and we can all be grateful for that while acknowledging the victims he did kill, instead of erasing them.

Re: School shooting tw

[quirkytizzy]

You noticed how no one question the anti Semite intentions of the Synagogue Shooter, even though a few people murdered weren't Jewish? In Mr. MRA's case, it might have something to do with the 130 page manifesto that talked about how he was going to kill a bunch of women for not sleeping with him.

I just can't imagine why women would think that murder has anything to do with misogyny. *fans delicate self*

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

It's not the idea that there was misogyny behind his actions that pissed me off, it was the "he killed seven women" part. It was the "I don't give two shits about the actual victims because I don't know the story yet and this fits my narrative" part.

Also, that manifesto contained a shit ton of racism in it to, why aren't people pointing that out?

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Just because you want to call him an MRA doesn't mean he is one.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Which synagogue shooter? (The fact that this even has to be a question is sad.) With the one in Kansas, uh, actually, yeah. Authorities were hemming and hawing forever over whether it was antisemitism or not.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

I know you're trolling, but lolno. The only reason he killed his roommates is because he was planning on making his apartment a 'killing room'. He planned to lure women to his apartment somehow and torture them to death. He also planned to shoot up an all female sorority, but didn't get to because they didn't open the door for him. To say his shooting spree wasn't because he hated women ignores his huge "HI IM DOING THIS BECAUSE OF WOMEN FUCKING SLUTS" manifesto.

He also bitched about wanting a physical revolution against feminism on pua-hate, so yeah.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

I'm trolling because I'm hoping that people will wait until we actually have facts about the other school shooting before turning it into a political circlejerk.

I'm trolling because I hated the fact that the narrative around the UCSB shooter was already being formed before we even knew the victims names.

I'm trolling because the fact that four people died was ignored because it didn't fit the story.

Yes, if he had succeeded (and thank whatever deity you believe in that he didn't) we'd be having a completely different conversation.

But he didn't.

And yet the people that didn't get killed are more important than the men who did. Funny that.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Also, you want to talk about misinformation? He was NEVER diagnosed with ASD. It was just his mother claiming he had aspergers. He was seeing a ton of shrinks and not one of them diagnosed him. They did give him medication for Schizophrenia/Bipolar though. So the "he did it because he was autistic!" line of thinking is stupid.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

That was also bullshit, yes. NEURODIVERGENCY =/= MURDERERS PEOPLE. STOP.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

No, six people died. Rodgers shot and wounded 13 more people, which included more women. And it's hard to ignore a 140 page manifesto dedicated to the hatred of women. Not to mention the people coming out of the woodwork in support of Elliot Rodgers.

Politics gets involved when people start looking at the primary cause of the action. Nobody other than a few tumblr assholes are erasing the victims by looking at why the incident happened in the first place.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Honest question, how many people here have read the entire manfesto and know all of the victim's names and relationship to the shooter?

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

Because that should be the bare miminum before you start using victims as a mouthpiece.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

I did read the entire thing. I don't know the names of the victims but I do know the relationships.

Re: School shooting tw

[dethtoll]

Holy shit, are you for real?

Re: School shooting tw

[ariakas]

You realize how painfully transparent your own political agenda is in this thread, right.

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

And the political issue, first and foremost, has to be gun control. No ifs or buts about it.

Re: School shooting tw

[diet_poison]

yes but does it always have to happen immediately? it's so disrespectful. at least give it a couple of days. because for so many people it's just them using someone's tragic death to pimp their political cause

Re: School shooting tw

[(Anonymous)]

The thing about ignoring the causes behind these types of things is that the problems never get addressed. We kind of HAVE to talk about certain things, because it is painfully obvious there is an issue here and it needs to be worked on.

Re: School shooting tw

[sarillia]

Where do you draw the line between "trying to make sure something like this doesn't happen again" and "turning a tragedy into a political issue"? This always confuses me. If I'm shot and killed, I would want people to be talking about the factors that led to that happening and how to stop it from happening in the future.

Partly this is just me and my "there is no clear line between 'politics' and 'not politics'" thinking that's always getting me into trouble.