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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-20 07:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2726 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2726 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Naruto]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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05. http://i.imgur.com/dkPX9Ym.gif
[moving .gif, Steven Ogg, Grand Theft Auto V]


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07. [SPOILERS for Murder in the First]



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08. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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09. [WARNING for rape]



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10. [WARNING for rape]



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11. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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12. [WARNING for rape, abuse, pedophilia, incest, ironically enough none of which OP warned for]



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13. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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15. [WARNING for sexual abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #389.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oppressed? No. Lonely and side-eyed for not ogling "hot people"? Yes. And I think that's probably what a good portion of the people you say are crying about being oppressed are talking about, you just can't get your head out of your ass long enough to see it.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Who the hell gets lonely and side-eyed for not ogling 'hot people'

I am honestly curious about this experience that is apparently common where people are mocked for not enjoying hot bods or something

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly you've never been called the prude at a bachelorette party -- or excluded from them entirely -- because you're not into strippers. Or ended up sitting alone at a club because the friends you went with have all paired off either with their SOs or a new person they met there.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
NA

Aaaand suddenly it's very quiet here. LOL.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I'm not demisexual in the least and those are problems I run into because I'm an introvert with social anxiety. There's a difference between being socially oppressed and being a social outlier; nobody's going to actually seek to harm you or me because we don't do the club/hookup scene well.

DA

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
If you could all stop pretending anyone is claiming demisexuals are oppressed, this argument would be a non-issue.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Whoops, I interpreted the comment the wrong way, sorry about that. I rescind the second half of my comment, but I stand by the first half. Feeling a bit lonely and side-eyed is pretty standard for everyone who doesn't fit in the flirty social butterfly category.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

No, I've been in those situations, or at least very comparable ones. I just don't think that's anywhere close to oppression, or anything that rises above the level of social awkwardness

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
You'll notice, I never said it was oppression. In fact, I quite clearly said it was NOT oppression. Find a new talking point.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well, what the fuck are you trying to do, then, other than make people feel sorry for you for your apparently super sad and lonely life (that is like the life of every single other introvert in existence, because guess what, THAT'S WHAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE)?

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but I guess I should give you credit for including the word "apparently" in your description of super-sad and lonely lives of introverts, but then your parenthetical statement kind of undid it.

Introverted and happy here. Neither super-sad, nor lonely (nor oppressed, before anyone asks). But thanks for the faux sympathy.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously? Seriously, though? I mean, sure, it can be "lonely" to be that one in a group of friends not to get the hype over anything.

But.

1. not everyone, "demisexual" identity or otherwise, is attracted to a stripper. Women (and men) aren't attracted to everyone they meet, aren't necessarily into showcase sex like strippers, etc. Not having an instant orgasm over a stripper does not make you unique.

2. not everyone meets people at clubs, too. You sitting alone at a club is not a circumstance unique to people who call themselves "demisexual".

Sorry if I'm being picky, but I can literally not think of a single circumstance in which a "demisexual" individual would feel disadvantaged that isn't also applicable to "non-demisexual" people. Because the implications that "normal" people are always thinking about sex with strangers or whatever is just nonsense.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Those just... aren't problems. I have something that's more of a problem. I really hate noodles. I just do. I don't know why, I was born that way. My friends always want to go out for spaghetti or lasagna, and I end up being unhappy and hungry. And my friends always act so shocked, asking how I can not like noodles.

That's how I feel when demisexuals talk about their "problems" except I legitimately feel that my problem is much bigger. I think I need a label.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think it varies wildly depending on where you live and what type of people you know.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Lonely and side-eyed for not ogling "hot people"?


aaaaaand there's the slut-shaming
quirkytizzy: (Default)

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Yep.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Gee whiz, that tumblr definition of slut-shaming sure is useful, huh!
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Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
It would be, if I had a Tumblr account.

Scratch that. I think I do have a Tumblr account. Do you know how long you can have not logged in before they deactivate it? Cuz that's a real worry with my Tumblr account.

On topic: Ogling suggests leering. Sexually base desires. (You can google the official definition if you'd like.) To say that others who are not demi ogle - (and implying that you DON'T indulge in such base desires)...well,

This may be getting too deep for you. We're talking about words and whatnot. How we USE words.

Do they teach that on Tumblr???

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Did you invent some words there where I said ogling hot people was bad? Because I certainly never said them.
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Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-21 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I can see both sides of this. "Ogle" is usually used negatively, after all...

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
How on Earth is that slut-shaming.

I literally do not understand how you could read that and think "slut-shaming!" even if you're trolling. And I'm using the literal definition of "literally."
quirkytizzy: (Default)

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Definition: Ogle: (Google) "stare at in a lecherous manner."

Now, I can define "lecherous" for you, if you'd like, but it does suggest a rather nasty thing about a person who ogles.

Perhaps you have a different definition than that literal definition of ogle????

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Don't bring the dictionary if you're too afraid to keep using it:

Lecherous: having or showing excessive OR offensive sexual desire.

So, if lecherous CAN be staring offensively OR staring lustfully, ogle CAN be a negative term OR it can just be a factual one.

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Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 03:10 am (UTC)(link)

I suppose it could.

Point taken.

I'd have to ask the OP of that comment, but I'm fairly certain they'd say they did not mean to be offensive. Perhaps they didn't.

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I am the OP of that comment, the comment you just replied to and the original comment in this thread. And no, I did not mean ogle in a negative sense.