[ SECRET POST #2753 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2753 ⌋

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Comments

[a_potato]

I'm opposite from you.

I hated Ten at first, because I loved Nine so much. But over time, he grew on me, and now I view him very fondly.

I loved Eleven at first; his appearance/performance in 'The Eleventh Hour' is very, very strong. As time went on, I didn't...come to dislike him, so much, as come to see him as representing an era that, overall, I dislike.

And I disagree with you about the 50th special. I enjoyed all three of the Doctors, but Hurt far and away outshone the other two.

[(Anonymous)]

He really did, but then again, it wss John Hurt so they didn't have a chance in hell of outshining him. He was the best thing about that special.

[a_potato]

The odds were sort of stacked against Tennant and Smith.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that he was the best thing about the special, though. I think it was well-done overall, although I understand the issues people have with it.

[(Anonymous)]

They really were.

While I have some issues with the special and War Doctor, I liked it well enough. But for me, John Hurt was the absolute best thing about it. Biased though because I love that man.

[fauxkaren]

lol I could never like Hurt's Doctor because I spent the entire time mentally shouting "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MCGANN!!!"

[solticisekf]

It shoud've been, yes.

[a_potato]

Awwww. I get that, but...he was so good. He was just so goddamned good!

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't it supposed to be Eccleston?

[fauxkaren]

Could have been either. Previous canon wasn't really firm on whether Nine was during the Time War or in its aftermath.

[(Anonymous)]

Part of Hurt's role was supposed to go to Eccleston according to Moffat, but Eccleston was an ass and turned the offer down.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! Or Eccleston. I can understand using McGann considering the personal troubles they seem to have with Eccleston, but at least use Paul McGann who was clearly willing, and take advantage of Hurt's availability for an important guest role, now or later! Or the next Master, maybe? Of course I'd rather John Simm, but in case he is not available the next time the Master shows up, I mean?

This has nothing to do with John Hurt who is a great actor: but he just didn't make sense in this role. He throws off the numbering in a way that makes no sense: I already hated the whole Tenth regenerating into himself.

And should that little trick have that thrown off the numbering too? Seriously, the cycle is not 13 anymore, now it's 15? It's like TPTB have never heard of consistency... I know it's nit picking, but they are the ones who insisted on all these stupid details that make no sense and then trample all over their own continuity: they just do not respect the internal consistency of their own show or the viewers' intelligence, which makes it hard to care for the show and the characters.

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[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

No, the numbering is off because they stole a couple of lives.

Basically Moffat basically turned one whole life into a Noodle Incident and sacrificed another to retcon just so he could play with the drama of "Oh! The Doctor is dying and this time it's his last!".

[raspberryrain]

Doctor Who does not have strong continuity. The twelve regenerations were sort of retconned in back in the 1970's to make the Time Lords less immortal, and they were already being retconned back out in the RTD era.

That Moffat acknowledged them at all is a giant nod toward the idea of continuity.

(And we can just not talk about the Valeyard.)

[(Anonymous)]

Same here, I loved 9 from the very beginning and couldn't get used to 10 at all until season 3 and then I had even appreciated older episodes.

Really, really wanted to like 11 and first few episodes I did but ... gosh writers have failed the actor. 10 was an unstable egomaniac in the end but 11 became this plus very ignorant. Dunno, but it might have been the effect of cutting off the whole character network? We had few cameos, but in the last seasons, Doctor had been more involved with everyone - this time we had Rory's dad and Random Kids.