[ SECRET POST #2755 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2755 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Different Anon.

It's an awful metaphor, and I wish it'd stopped being trotted out. There's no reasonable reason to fear any of the groups you've cited. There is every reason to fear someone who, possibly through inexperience or a quirk of screwed up genetics that makes control impossible, can/will/cannot help melting you into goo. I don't have to wonder where my special trash-can helmet is when standing next to a person who is gay/a woman/a minority, because they can't break my mind, change my memories, or lobotomize me, willfully or accidentally, on a whim or for their own purposes.

All of those groups are safe in ways that mutants simply aren't.

[(Anonymous)]

ok william stryker

[(Anonymous)]

...?

[(Anonymous)]

so you arent familiar at all with the series you're trashing? do you know anything about it besides what you've seen in trailers?

[(Anonymous)]

I meant, how, exactly, does that further the conversation? Your comments are the equivalent of running in, shouting an insult, and running out.

Because as far as I know, his plan involved murdering an entire segment of the human race, something which I certainly didn't advocate. I simply said that mutants = minorities/women is a crap metaphor if you think about it for a moment.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

what about muslims being terrorists?

[(Anonymous)]

Are you intentionally accusing all Muslims of being as dangerous as mutants? Or are you simply prejudiced and trying to pass that off on others?

Either way, Muslims (like LGBTs/women/everyone else) aren't capable of anything that any other human is incapable of. Therefore, they're just like everyone else... and not worthy of your your inane question.

[(Anonymous)]

except not all mutants are dangerous or have dangerous abilities, which you'd know if you knew anything about the series.

[(Anonymous)]

I love that your first assumption isn't that I have a different POV. No, it's that I can't possibly have read any of the comics.

The mutants with the helpful/peaceful abilities aren't shown in the series as a general rule. The mutant with the poly-lingual mutation got written out. So did the one with the numbers ability.

If the violent/weaponized/uncontrollable mutations are the ones we're shown most often, then it's not a stretch to assume that those make up the bulk of the abilities that sprout up, especially since the series goes to extreme lengths to keep emphasizing how RARE mutants are and how there aren't very many of them. (And, apparently, we're expected to believe that it's an international thing, despite most of the shown mutants living in the U.S. It's enough to make you wonder if there's something in the water or a mutant-magnet in Xavier's mansion.)

[mekkio]

So much in agreement. There are mutants out there that could wipe out whole cities and people are not supposed to be afraid of them? Why? What proof has been shown that mutants are passive? None. They are always blowing up stuff and feuding with everyone be it regular people or mutants.

That's why try as I might and I keep on trying back into the comics every other year or so, I can't get into X-Men. I keep on thinking that the premise is ridiculous. Mutants fighting for mutant kind and getting ticked at humanity for not excepting them while another mutant is going on a killing spree with their mind and no one can stop them. Ugh. No.

[(Anonymous)]

mutants are no more dangerous than the regular superhumans like the ff and the avengers, and they arent feared and hated like the mutants are

[(Anonymous)]

DA

...They probably should be, especially if you think for a moment about what might've gone into "privatizing world peace.

[mekkio]

Because the FF and the Avengers are government backed. They are monitored and kept under the thumb of such groups like S.H.I.E.L.D..

Meanwhile, mutants aren't regulated. No one knows who is one and how many they are and what they can do. It's the unknown that makes people fearful.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is honestly one of the main persistent continuity issues with the Marvel universe, and the reason it's a good thing the X-Men movie continuity is entirely separate from the MCU.

It also doesn't make subbing in people with dangerous superpowers for actual minorities any less stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

AYART

Thank you!

I'd forgotten about those Super Special Mutants. But yes, total agreement here. That's why individual citizens are generally not allowed to own nuclear weapons as part of their personal arson - because really? You expect to be able to trust every Tom, Dick, and Harry with that much power?

And for what it's worth, I totally agree with you re: the property damage and feuding.

[(Anonymous)]

Well we got a prime example this week about how you shouldn't be able to trust any Tom, Dick, and Harry with even regular high powered weapsons. Unfortunately 300 RL people are dead as a result of that lesson.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe because they didn't choose to have a power that could wipe out whole cities?
Someone having the potential to hurt someone else isn't as scarier as someone trying to create weapons to hurt others imo.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it is.

You have to choose to make a weapon to hurt others, and it requires a great deal of skill, education, and effort to do so. Destructive mutations, on the other hand, are consistently shown as pretty effortless to wield, and most dangerous mutations can be dangerous without the conscious choice of the person who has them.

[(Anonymous)]

That's why mutants shouldn't be a metaphor for minorities, but for rich people. Although the 1% is a very small minority ...

[(Anonymous)]

lol, you're like the right-wingers who argue that the x-men aren't a metaphor for minorities but for gun owners

[(Anonymous)]

I like this idea!

yes but it's not just a metaphor it's a fantasy

[ozaline]

There may be no good reason to hate and fear queer people, or other minorities but hated and feared they sometimes are. X-men is about confronting that fear... yes, but it's also about having a fantasy where that fear is taken away cause you have the power rather than your aggressors.

It'd be boring and depressing without the optic blasts, and magnetic powers.

There's an issue of X-men where a graveyard I refusing to bury Jubilee's friend Angelo because being a mutant is against their religion.. you can't tell me that's not about queer issues.


If you get into the real world applications of being a mutant, than you're missing the fantasy aspect of being a mutant.

Re: yes but it's not just a metaphor it's a fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

I can and I will. LOTS of people have been denied burial in holy ground - including suicides, the mentally ill, adulterers, strangers, victims of murder. NONE of that had to do with sexual orientation.

And nope, I'm not missing the fantasy aspect of being a mutant. I see it. And I loathe it.

Re: yes but it's not just a metaphor it's a fantasy

[(Anonymous)]

A simple google search would see you're full of shit.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/vet-sues-after-burial-gay-partner-denied-0
http://www.advocate.com/news/daily-news/2011/06/29/gay-man-refused-funeral-catholic-church
http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/ECE1626559/vicar-refused-homosexual-burial/
http://www.dignitysd.org/Archives/McCusker/march_19%20article.htm