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⌈ Secret Post #2755 ⌋

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Comments

[arcadiaego]

She can't be open about being a mutant and walk down the street looking her true self, no.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, yeah, if she and her friends wouldn't kill humans and stuff, that might be less of a problem over time. But nah. I wanna be blue and people are mean about it. Let's kill them! Yeah, my sympathy OOZES over here.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure humans were killing mutants first, the mutants were only fighting back.

[arcadiaego]

This thread just sounds like one of those 'if gay/black/trans people were nicer to us they wouldn't be oppressed!' Tumblr posts to be honest.

[(Anonymous)]

Too bad that I am a gay woman, in that case.

[arcadiaego]

Then you'll have seen the debates X Men is representing in our own community, most likely.

[(Anonymous)]

And I don't agree. So?

[arcadiaego]

You're saying that she should stop moaning because she could look like a conventionally attractive woman. That's not disagreeing about whether it's ok to get mad or be nice, that's just not engaging with the argument at all. But I don't think we're going to get any further, as you seem set on that, and after all, it is only a metaphor for violence being done against minorities, not an actual example of it worth getting worked up over.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

As a general rule of thumb, minorities in our world, as far as I know, don't kill people as a general or have intra-group conflicts that range across the globe and even go into outer space. The same can't be said of mutants.

(That said, yes, if you're an ass, don't expect people to be nice to you. But that rule applies to everyone. This aside brought to you by the bi person who recently told me that no, their open and vicious chip against people who believe in God and/OR who don't want to hear about their sexuality, doesn't affect their social interactions at all. All of those people who respond negatively to them/their attitude are just being prejudiced, apparently.)

[(Anonymous)]

minus the space part, muslims do

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure what your point is here.

[(Anonymous)]

read the news

[arcadiaego]

I think you know that X Men is a metaphor, based on what would happen in an action movie scenario where people have superpowers, but that aside, people who consider themselves to be oppressed communities have killed or done violence to those they consider to be their oppressors many many times throughout history.

[nyxelestia]

Generally? No. Always? Also no.

I mean, the mutant rights issues in the comics are a pretty strong parallel to the black civil rights movement of 1960's America. You get the leading man interested in integrating and harmony, trying to lead a peaceful movement (Martin Luther King Jr. and most black rights groups, especially the NAACP). Then you've got the leading man who believes separation is the only answer, and is either not afraid to use violence or even actively encourages it (Malcolm X, Black Panthers, etc.)

And while they may not be out there committing violence all that often, I've run into radfems who tend to act the same way, seeing all men as a threat and believing women can only be safe and happy away from men, buying into the whole "women can't rape or abuse men" myth, etc.

What you've got here is an extremist minority group that believes in separation, elimination, and violence in ways similar to many real life minority groups in the real world...but in a far better position to act on that violence in the fictional world than the groups in the real world.

[arcadiaego]

It's not about her wanting to be blue, it's that Erik's side of the debate thinks humans will kill them, due to their massive history of killing anyone who's different to them, which many of them have direct experience of. Charles' side is the peaceful 'let's all be nice to each other and change will happen because everyone is good at heart' side. Things happen that make both sides sympathetic which is why the conflict exists? Idk how you can think it's about someone killing people because they can't be blue if you've watched the films, they're pretty unsubtle metaphors.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't sympathize with Erik's side. They're reckless idiots and their behavior annoyed me to no end. Things happen that may have made both sides sympathetic to you, but not to everyone. Personally, I just wanted to bitchslap them.

[(Anonymous)]

so you dont have any sympathy for a man who lost his entire family in the Holocaust?

[(Anonymous)]

Should I sympathize with Hitler because he saw the terrors of the First World War?

[(Anonymous)]

how is that comparable to being in the holocaust?

da

[(Anonymous)]

the face that he suffered unbelievable cruelty doesn't actually make his ideas less stupid or destructive

it's just sad

also his mother was killed by a surpemacist mutant so good job with explicitly becoming that I guess

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

In the comics his parents were killed in the death camps.

Re: da

[elaminator]

also his mother was killed by a surpemacist mutant so good job with explicitly becoming that I guess

lmao, yesssssssss.

(He's an interesting character and Fassy does a wonderful job portraying him, but...ugh, Erik. And yea, I know his back-story is different in the comics.)

[(Anonymous)]

See, this I can understand. I get a LOT of "You'd be so pretty if..." and it's true. I could put out a little effort and be a very, very pretty woman.

That's the thing. My 'blue' is 'male'. I'm transgendered. Female to Male. So, I sympathise with Mystique base wants. She wants to be blue, and accepted as she walks down the street. She wants to be who she was born as!

So do I. The difference between her and me is that I wouldn't hurt anyone to try to do this, and she appears to be more than happy to hurt people.

[arcadiaego]

Yeah, I understand their anger but overall I'm on Charles' side, not Erik's. Starting to see the other side as not mattering just because they think *you* don't matter never ends well.

[nyxelestia]

I don't support Erik's side or Raven's choices, but that doesn't mean I don't sympathize with their dilemmas, or understand why they made those choices in the first place. We can believe their oppression is legitimate without supporting their reactions to that oppression.