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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-23 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2790 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2790 ⌋

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Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I know everyone is going to tell you that you suck.

But I don't think you do, because I don't believe you're right about yourself. You feel like you'd be unable to not be amused and contemptuous? I think that would change if you actually knew a guy like that.

Society loves to play the guy being abused by a girl as comedy. The situation seems ridiculous because everyone keeps telling you it is... as a far-away idea that happens to Other People. Ha-ha, what a wuss and a weakling. Nobody you know would react like that.

But one day you go to school, or work, or the bus stop, and there's a woman yelling at a man. Telling him he's a worthless sack of shit, he doesn't deserve to live, that his family and friends would be better off without him, that he doesn't deserve her, and he takes it and looks like maybe he agrees. Like he's sorry he sucks so much, or exists at all. She storms off. He's just as embarrassed and awkward as everybody else and can't meet anybody's eyes when he tries to tell them that she's not always like that. She loves him, really. They're engaged, in fact.

Would you still think that's funny?

If so, then maybe I'm wrong.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
See I agree OP does not suck.
HOWEVER
"But one day you go to school... there's a woman yelling at a man... looks like maybe he agrees... They're engaged, in fact."
This is definitely not abuse. if it is it's self inflicted because he already feels this way about himself, but even if you consider him a victim, what precisely is he a victim of? Is he harmed by harsh words? Then he's a joke, and genuinely does not deserve a relationship with an actual human being.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
...you can't fucking be serious. Are you for real? You really, honestly think that words don't hurt people, or that emotional abuse isn't a thing?

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
If a parent tells a child they are worthless so often that the child begins to believe it's true, is that not classic abuse?

If someone with low self-esteem commits suicide because they're being bullied, are they not a victim, because they were "depressed in the first place?"

Rock-bottom self esteem often has causes. Emotional abuse is still abuse.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Children cannot get engaged, because they are stupid and susceptible to shit adults are not

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You...don't understand how abuse works do you?

I mean, by your logic, if a woman stays with her abuser it is her fault. She is a joke for staying with him.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Women and men are not children. Calling them name is not abuse.
Are you mentally ill?

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
One name isn't no but over a long time it is

I'm not mentally ill are you? because you sound kind of weirdly unempethetic.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.counselingcenter.illinois.edu/self-help-brochures/relationship-problems/emotional-abuse/

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/domestic_violence_abuse_types_signs_causes_effects.htm

hth

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Calling someone names can definitely be abuse.

Over a long time, the victim comes to believe they're worthless. Also, the abuser usually cuts their victim off from their friends and family, bullies them into not leaving the house without them, and tells them that no one else would have them.

Unfortunately, those who were past victims of abuse tend to be drawn to what they already know, ie again seek out abusers. It can be baffling to those outside. It's still abuse.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Because we all know 'harsh words' aren't really abuse. /sarcasm

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You're fucked up.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So people with low self esteem deserve emotional abuse because they brought it on themselves? What is wrong with you?

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
And you are a symptom of the really incredibly backwards way in which society treats abuse victims.

People are harmed by harsh words. Emotional abuse is still abuse. You don't need to beat seven shades of shit out of someone to do psychological damage to them.

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you are an asshole. Probably like the ones in these videos.

http://youtu.be/u3PgH86OyEM
http://youtu.be/LlFAd4YdQks

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Eh? Is this a misfire or are you calling me an asshole for some reason?

Re: So.....

(Anonymous) 2014-08-23 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, sorry. Meant to reply to the person who replied to you.