[ SECRET POST #2828 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2828 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Wakfu]


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03.
[rupaul's drag race]


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04.
[Law and Order: Criminal Intent]


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05.
[3-2-1 Contact: The Time Team]


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06.
[Anna Popplewell, Reign]


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07.
[The Strain]


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08.
[Justice League]


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09.
[Louisa May Alcott's Little Women]

















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #404.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/ks7hc2e.png
[Justice League]

[(Anonymous)]

Which episode was this?

[(Anonymous)]

Legends.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Specifically part 2

[(Anonymous)]

Ok, thanks

[(Anonymous)]

I know this episode, but I'm not sure which part your talking about, the fact they were dead all along, the mutant kid who brought them back, or John's reaction to them since he was familiar with their stories.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

The kid won't let anything change. He won't let the characters die, so he won't let the world around them evolve. His heroes are stuck repeating their old arcs long past the point of relevance. (And of course he has his own self-insert who gets to go along on the adventures . . .)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Ah, I see. Any particular heroes that you were thinking of in particular?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

The usual example is One More Day, but really, a lot of the stuff that shows up under Running the Asylum qualifies. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RunningTheAsylum

[iceyred]

This was such a good show and that was an excellent episode. Part of the reason it's such a good show/episode is that it's timeless. The themes will never go out of date or be irrelevant.

[(Anonymous)]

That episode was dark, but without being grimdark like the current DC movies. Just that 2nd parter of a 2 part did more to convey and display the nature of heroism in 25 minutes than the entire Dark Knight trilogy and Man of Steel movies did. Fuckit DC, put stuff like that on screen. And it didn't end with anything morally ambiguous or murky either.

[iceyred]

Exactly. The JL might've been flawed, but they were a likeable flawed. They were flawed and they still tried to do the right thing.

[(Anonymous)]

When we talk of heroes making the "hard choices" that is the choice and the answer we want to see.

To switch fandoms for a moment and steal from Doctor Who, better to risk failing at doing the right thing than succeed at doing the wrong thing.

Switching back, if it was animated now, or worse, part of the current DC comic lineup that would end with everyone swallowing the Stepford koolaid for the greater good.

[doilycoffin]

Part of the reason it's such a good show/episode is that it's timeless. The themes will never go out of date or be irrelevant.

I agree. It's also just one of those shows that has something for everybody. When it was still airing, my whole family would watch the new episodes together; that's actually one of my fondest memories as a child. The DCAU in general has a lot of good stuff and I kind of wish they would stick to animation and give up on live action because their film verse is...a bit lackluster in comparison (of course, that would never happen because money).

[(Anonymous)]

They've given up on animation because the fans turned out to be mostly female and they didn't know how to sell boy's toys to girls. Because the marketing department just isn't bright enough to dump an arbitrary division or how to work with anything other than a pre-approved advertizers list.

[nightscale]

I've got nothing to say other than I loved this show and I miss it so much.

[(Anonymous)]

In fairness a lot of those writers are trying to undo the damage did by the Dark and Dork Age changes. Take the characters back to an identity where people still had feet, had at most two pouches or pockets, and didn't run around soaking everything in blood to show how "adult" they were. Just Quesada and Didio are really fucking bad at it.

[dethtoll]

The sad irony of this is that there were a LOT of good comics in that era and some of those changes I think are for the better.

I know a lot of people were angry with DC for turning Hal Jordan into a villain and disappearing him for a few years, but let's be real here -- he was NEVER interesting prior to Emerald Twilight. Apparently Parallax gave him a personality. I like him much, much more now -- he's flawed, human, prone to hubris and major mistakes, and is not well-liked by a lot of people, but he keeps going.

A lot of people like to hold up 1990s Batman as an example of the Dork Age so let me counter that with some good stories: Cataclysm/No Man's Land, Knightfall*, Contagion and Legacy, several arcs in Legends of the Dark Knight (Grant Morrison's Gothic is a good example,) the list goes on.

* Yes, yes, I know, Azrael's costume is ridiculous, but I still hold to the theory that Azrael's raison d'etre as psychopathic 90s anti-hero was to make a point to readers who were asking for a more contemporary, post-Miller version of Batman.

Other good things from the "Dark Age" -- Ron Marz' run on Green Lantern (the Kyle era) is either really awesome or really awful depending on how butthurt you were over Emerald Twilight. I personally think it's great, and I like to cite issue #95 in particular as a great single-issue story that reminds me of the best in 1960s/70s sci-fi. Grant Morrison's JLA is just amazing -- especially "Rock of Ages" which feels like practice for one of my favourite DC events ever, Final Crisis. And Garth Ennis' Hitman is, from start to finish, one of the best, funniest, most goofily violent but incredibly heartwarming and heartbreaking comics I've ever read.

It's not all bad. A lot of those changes you mentioned were reverted or tweaked long before the 2011 reboot. (Does anyone remember Bloodlines? No? That's because every single character created by that early-90s shitshow is dead, and other than a couple good ones that stuck around for a while, like Tommy Monaghan, they often only showed up to get killed off. I think Infinite Crisis cleaned the last of them out.)

[forgottenjester]

This episode freaked me the fuck out as a kid. I loved it.

[(Anonymous)]

that was an amazing episode, and i agree with everything you've said. i miss this show omg. time for a rewatch!