[ SECRET POST #2861 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2861 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 052 secrets from Secret Submission Post #409.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[case]

Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

[dethtoll]

Is it just me or do some of the secrets read like they're from the same person?

(I mean, I don't really care one way or another, just something that struck me)

[(Anonymous)]

No I was thinking the same thing too...

Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[kallanda_lee]

Would you ever consider just deleting threads like that altogether?

Ones in GC that do not mention the show name and/or "spoilers" and do not collapse?

Here's my reasoning for it: it's different that secret spoilers, as between submitting and posting those there will be a "grace period" of a few days usually. Also you can just scroll past a secret from a certain fandom, you can't if the post is not even tagged by that name.

The person who did it yesterday was just gleeful, deliberate and entitled about it, and then posted more spoilers when people dared to complain.

Based on the time stamps, new people got spoiler hours after the original post.

I honestly just suggest not giving people like that a forum by simply deleting such threads altogether in the future.

(Freezing it won't help in this case, obviously).

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

hth

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

but those are secrets, this is about a GC thread

another go?

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[kallanda_lee]

Yes, some SECRETS - this was not a secret, that is the point.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

SECRETS, you asshole.

SECRETS.

Learn to fucking read the shit you're replying to and the shit you're copying and pasting, you malicious half-wit.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

That's dumb. Case shouldn't have to police spoiler threads

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[case]

I'm leaning no.

Is there a consensus on how long the grace period should be? Is there a consensus on what counts as a spoiler or not? Is somebody going to watch for spoilers and report them, because I'm not familiar with every fandom? Are they going to be from all over the world, and if something airs in the US, is it considered "aired and fair game" in the UK? Or vice versa? What about stuff that originates from Japan and isn't published elsewhere at all? Do we go by when they aired in Japan? When torrents went up? When translations were put in? What if there's weeks or months between those dates? What if those people don't agree?

Yes, it sucks that people post spoilers, yes, it'd be much nicer of them to warn, and yes it sucks that people are trolling with them, but to delete those threads would cause more wank about what counts or not than stopping spoiler wank as far as I can tell. If someone is being a troll and posting spoilers in totally random threads, let me know that there's a troll doing so and I'll delete those for trolling, but not for spoilers.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[kallanda_lee]

It's not so much about posting them, as about posting them without even mentioning the fandom (and then you can choose whether to click on it or not).

Most communities I'm in will have around a week grace period, some a bit less, some a bit more.

But the reason I mention it, is because it really did feel like deliberate and malicious - i.e. a form of trolling, basically. And with the amount of malicious trolls/stalkers we had lately - not that the know it works, it's bound to happen again.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[kallanda_lee]

It's obviously entirely up to you, but I feel like there's something we should be able to do against people like that.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with your reasoning. There's no clear statute of limitations on spoilers and trying to regulate it on here would be chaos

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

Although I don't agree with all your decisions, I agree completely with this so thank you.

And just for the record I hate spoilers, but any rule about spoilers would have to be done for the sake of an specifically located group of users.
But FS has users from many parts of the word, so it'll be unfair for everyone else.

It'll be better if everyone could show some courtesy and at least warn, sure, but since it isn't possible to control that, then we have to just accept there's always the chance of someone posting spoilers and move on.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[the_missing_y]

Might I recommend changing the wording? I think the text at the top of the page implys that there will be spoilers and to take your own chances, but I can get why some people would use it as a loophole, cause it does literally mean the secrets alone will contain spoliers (even though the line has been used to defend spoilers in the comments to secrets.

TLDR: Grey area

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

As much as I hate spoilers, in this day and age you just need to except them. If you don't want to be spoiled, avoid the internet. And if you do get spoiled, too bad.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much this.

Re: Case, in relation to the spoiler thread in GC yesterday...

[(Anonymous)]

I think we should ban people annoying chardmonster.

[(Anonymous)]

Dethtoll's hater anon is back. Mind keeping an eye on his thread?
http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1106286.html?thread=790970734#cmt790970734

[(Anonymous)]

You do realise you are just basically applauding them when you post these threads. Message Case directly if you have to, but putting up a warning thread gives them their win. They've publicly upset you and got noticed, that is all any troll wants.

[(Anonymous)]

You should stop whiteknighting him. He's old enough to deal with his haters.

too big

[(Anonymous)]

#3 is 703px × 396px

Re: too big

[(Anonymous)]

OH NOES WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE AHHH

Question about what counts as a fandom!

[(Anonymous)]

I am trying to avoid the depths of not!fandom purgatory. I have a secret about a specific fandom askblog in mind. Will that count as fandom, or not? Thanks for answering!

Re: Question about what counts as a fandom!

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely a fandom secret IMO, but I'd be concerned about it being interpreted as a personal attack.