[ SECRET POST #2893 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2893 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

And, at least for fan artists, you can't build a career off your fan art,

you know absolutely nothing about the entertainment arts industry and it's almost laughable.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's like this nonny lives under a rock or in a world where nobody does "work for hire". I mean, how do you get a work for hire job without having some of the relevant copyrighted material in your very own portfolio? You usually wouldn't. A prospective employer would want to see how an artist handles the material in question so that they can judge the prospective employee's skill in hanlding said material.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Nonny also seems to live in a world where funds for research fall from the sky, and nobody ever has to compete for grant money or appointments.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, EXCEPT all of that is ORIGINAL research. You don't get ANY funding for using someone else's work. Think about that for a second.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

You could by using someone else's work and passing it off as your own. Which nonny is apparently ok with since she claims she is only doing scientific research for the Joy of Discovery and the Greater Good.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Except I never said I was passing it off as my own. I said that I couldn't find a source so I posted it regardless hoping that if someone knew or the original artist saw it, they would let me know so I could edit it in since reverse google image search had already failed me.

But yeah, I do feel legitimate disgust with people who are in science because they want to be famous and have everyone admire them for how smart they are. I don't care who you are -- your research is all that matters.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

I think we're talking past each other here. I was referring to your claim that you're too noble to care about being recognized for your scientific research, which apparently means it's okay by you if someone else takes credit for your research and the resulting grants and appointments fall into their lap rather than to you, the person who has earned them.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Did I say I was noble? No -- because I think that's called being a normal person. That normal people should be out to do something, not because it will get them recognition, but because it will help others. I think you have to be pretty egocentric/narcissistic to go into science being primarily concerned with making a name for yourself and having everyone bow and scrape when you enter a room. There are definitely scientists -- brilliant scientists, in fairness -- who are like that. But they definitely ARE egocentric and narcissistic too on top of it.

I didn't say I'd be okay with other people getting my grant money because I kind of need that to feed myself. But if I could get a position with secure funding, I have to be honest and say that I wouldn't care if my name was attached to my research as long as I could keep doing it. Not going to lie about that.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Because looking for recognition for your hard work and time and creativity totally equals expecting everyone to bow and scrape when you enter a room. How disingenuous is it humanly possible to be?

I'd say it's normal and human to want recognition for your work, and selfless beyond sanity to be willing to toil for decades, in some cases, yet not mind if someone else receives the credit for your accomplishment. If you're so high-minded that you truly don't care, fine for you, but don't decide that people who feel differently are all narcissists.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

If you are making money of someone else's intellectual property (unless you're under contract, say, for an expanded universe), I absolutely do not believe you have any right to base your career off it. I'm not going to say that fan artists shouldn't take commissions, but I don't think anyone has the right to build a career off someone else's work when they do not have any sort of permission or contact from the original artist.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

the anon above already said it better than I but I'll spell it out for you anyway:

even putting aside commissions for fanart, people have gotten jobs with portfolios full of fanart, actual original work jobs. your saying "you can't build a career off fanart!" is naive and again, shows how very little you know about how the art industry works. do you think a concept artist's portfolio is not going to be full of Star Wars fanart? a comic book artist's portfolio not going to be filled with sketches of Batman? an animator's portfolio not filled with character designs of their take on Adventure Time? people get paying work with portfolios full of "someone else's intellectual property," but it's the talent that carries them.

everyone in this industry is piggybacking off of each other and you're so off the mark it's just astounding. take your moral outrage elsewhere because it's severely misplaced. a walkthrough an animator's office might send you into convulsions.

Re: Fanartists, at least, are attention whores when they do this IMO

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, I'm not sure if you are still reading this but I thought of something in the mean time:

There is a certain famous comic book artist on facebook who held a contest for followers to redraw designs for his ORIGINAL character. He ended up picking one that gave him a bunch of different versions which he liked because they made the character look updated while staying true to his personality in spirit. Now this artist may get a job from said comic book creator as a result of this, or he may use it as part of his portfolio. This is one example of how someone may base their career off of something like fanart. Fanart is an expression of your love for their work, it is not merchandise you are selling en masse to the public. In fact many people find fanart flattering.

Getting a job working for a company because of your artistic skill and starting your own business in an attempt to get a piece of the pie for yourself are two vastly different things.