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go beyond case is literally perf, please

things to consider:
ip logging
how often threads are frozen or deleted
ever implementing bans

literally perf

beyond literally perf

I legitimately think it's very good. I have no strong feelings on when IP logging is on or not, and I think the thread-freezing is pretty spot on.

I wouldn't mind Case implementing bans but I assumed that was basically not possible for one reason or another?

-IP logging should always be on, that's my only critique.
-Threads being frozen or deleted is awesome. especially obnoxious trolls.
-Bans? I don't know what you're referring to

ITA about IP logging.

tbh, i think case is too quick on freezing and deleting honestly

like i get if it's spamming or harrassing, but otherwise i think stop conservations short is boring and promotes blandness over discussion

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case - 2014-12-18 01:26 (UTC) - Expand

1. IP logging is not used indiscriminately. IP logging is not, to my knowledge, being abused to dox, harass, or otherwise harm legitimate anons (and named users going anon). Nor is it being used to dox or harass or otherwise harm the trolls!

2. Frozen threads prevent wank and keep FS on a fairly neutral emotional keel. Deleted comments are ONLY (that I have seen) deleted at the poster's request. (Unless it's really egregious or something.)

Bans are unnecessary, due to 1. and 2. above.

If anything he's too soft on us.

IP logging doesn't bother me. Regarding frozen/deleted threads, he acts promptly when wankage breaks out, and maintains a nice even keel. I've seen mods get irritable with everyone when a small group acted like dicks, I I appreciate that.

Also has awesome user icons.

I almost always go for more mod harshness when this type of question is asked. Most of the sites I've been on have folks who do nothing but cause wank, but never get banned because a): the mods really don't like banning people, or b): they haven't done anything technically against the rules, because nobody's bothered to write a "don't be a total asshat" rule. (I've been on two sites that I thought were too trigger-happy, but that was a matter of unflinching rule enforcement with no regard for context--I still think "don't be a total asshat" is one rule that's worth banning people over.)

(And yes, I realize I have been accused of being a total asshat.)

P.S. For what it's worth, I find it amazing how quickly Case deals with problem threads. He knows when to freeze and when to just delete, and he keeps the biggest trolls from causing any real problems.

Edited 2014-12-18 00:32 (UTC)

Case is doing great. If anything, he's way more patient than I would be when it comes to freezing or deleting threads, and he has never frozen threads where any fruitful conversation was taking place.

I have no problem with the IP logging and it could be on all the time, for all I care.

He does a very good job of posting a batch of secrets on a daily basis even though I'm sure he's a busy dude, his dedication to running this comm for seven years (I think it's seven now) is pretty impressive, and he's one of the least drama mongering mods I've seen. Sometimes I think threads get frozen too quickly, but I just like watching train wrecks so that's on me, not him. He's banned people before on lj but that was only in the case of extreme trolling by named users and I don't think there are any current named users who really need banning so I think he's fine on that front. I don't care either way about ip logging.

Case is the only mod. That alone takes a lot of time and effort, and he always seems to put it in. When I've messaged about concerns or suggestions, I have felt heard. I think he tries to be fair to everyone, and provide a safe space for us.

Basically, Case is awesome.

I'm in awe of case. How does he do it? I cannot imagine updating this comm consistently at about the same time every day, for years. I've been here for probably three years, and he hasn't missed a single day. If we had any other mod, it'd be dead, or they'd try to move it off DW/LJ to make money off of ads or something. Case, you're amazing, thank you for sticking with this comm, even though I know we must exasperate you at times.

I think Case does a great job modding here considering he's the only one. It's admirable that this comm runs as smoothly as it does.

I support whatever makes you angry.

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Except you really couldn't have a better mod for this comm. Daily, timely updates, prompt responses to questions or concerns, and actually listens is awesome.
Not to mention maintaining distance from getting too personally involved with the community that it changes/grows on its own. Not that mods shouldn't be active within their comm, but half the time mod drama happens is because of how they engage their members (if not ridiculous mods drama). The reason it's so easy to see people say these idealising things about ours is because he mods like a boss.

btw, IP logging shouldn't matter to you unless you actually think case is going to somehow endanger you because he figured out you enjoy being a sycophant, or maybe a dick rod, on multpiple posts (anon, puppet, not puppet, etc.).

And the few folk who have been banned definitely deserved to be. No one is going to be sad about the absence of crude and repetitive assholes.

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Case is great! If it wasn't for Case, this comm would probably be long gone and dead by now.

My only criticisms are:
-IP logging gets turned on way too quickly for my taste.
-I feel like some threads get frozen or deleted too quickly, specifically when they're not really a problem but it's more that someone is whining about them
-Some of the rules, particularly the page-stretching pictures, don't usually get enforced, especially if a 'regular' is posting them.

That is all.

I think Case does well all things considered. And I think IP logging should be on more often if not all the time.

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Re: thoughts on case's modding ability

(Anonymous) - 2014-12-18 04:14 (UTC) - Expand

Case is a pretty good mod, especially for a one-man-band on a forum where most people are posting anon.

Regarding OP's list of considerations:

-I'd vote for all IP-logging, all the time.
-No issues with thread-freezing.
-No issues with deleting individual posts, but don't think entire threads should be deleted unless we're attacked by spambots or something.

He's not perf because nobody's perf. But he's very good. I would honestly not have expected a long-time single mod of a relatively big comm to be at it for years and not become obnoxious or self-important.

I really appreciate that IP logging goes on when the trolls are particularly bad. I do wish it would stay on all the time, but there are so many people who have piss fits when it goes on that at least he's trying to strike a balance.

Threads are frozen a bit more than I wish they were, but that's really a personal preference thing. IME if something is deleted, it's because it was really vile and added nothing of value to the comm or to any discussion, so that's a good thing.

Has Case ever actually banned anyone??

Other thoughts: I'm really impressed with Case's consistency in posting every day. I've never seen him miss one. Sometimes it's late, but life happens. And he's always keeping an eye in case something shitty happens during discussion. Very dedicated mod. Excellent job, Case :)

I think he's the Havelock Vetinari to our Ankh-Morpork.

I actually wish Case WOULD turn IP logging (not permanently, just periodically) and actually track and ban some troublemakers and antagonizers, instead of just using it as a preventive measure.

But that would take a lot of work, and I get why he doesn't.

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