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Comments

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

It bugs me that people call human euthanasia playing God, but they don't say that when doctors save a premature baby's life by putting it on a bunch of machines.

So it's okay to keep a baby away from God, but we can't help a person reach Him faster when it's clear they're already going to die?

Oh, wait, when it's a baby being saved, it's all the doctor's doing and forget about God when someone lives. It's only all about God when it's someone's death.

We'll put a dog down when its suffering becomes uncomfortable for us. A dog can't talk. What if the dog is just weak, not in pain, and wants to live until it dies naturally? Likewise, what if a dying person is suffering intractable pain and they just want to take a pill and get it over with?

Why do we send our pets off to Heaven in a nicer way than we send people off?

Yes I am a Christian, I'm not here to argue about God. I'm stating my opinion on euthanasia and around my church I get shut up about it all the time. I'm pro life in the sense that I would not get an abortion or consider euthanasia MYSELF, however I won't take that choice away from someone else.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the argument for or against Euthanasia should even be couched in religious terms. Religion has no place in policy making.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

+100

Religion has no place in policy making at all.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

I agree completely. Unfortunately in American politics, there are a lot of people who might not apply religion to euthanasia, but they'd happily apply it to women's health issues like abortion, birth control, etc. as well as gay marriage.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[diet_poison]

To be fair though anon was just talking about their personal beliefs, and made no mention of policy.

I fully agree that religion and law don't mix, but there's nothing wrong with talking about personal approaches to hot-button topics and how they relate to your faith, or your life philosophies, or something else like that.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

I have zero objection to euthanasia and don't really understand anyone else's objection to it. But then I'm not Christian.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

DA:

Okay, I think it should be legal, but I can still understand other people's objections. Most of them are non-religious, even, and involve the potential for abuse. Could elderly or mentally disabled people be coerced into taking the option by unscrupulous carers or relatives who were looking to save money/get rid of an inconvenience? Hell, would poor people be pressured into euthanasia when faced with the potential of bankrupting their families? What type of counseling would be required beforehand? Would euthanasia ever be an acceptable option for someone with clinical depression or another mental illness? If so, when? Etc.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Those I certainly understand as vital concerns. There are numerous factors to deal with and the potential for abuse is frightening. I just can't see the difficulties as grounds for blanket objection.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

Here in Oregon we've had an assisted-suicide law on the books for quite some time now, and the abuses you mention (which I agree would be a legitimate ethical concern) simply haven't happened. So that's some good news.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT -- glad to hear it! Although, IIRC, Oregon has half-way decent social services. I'd be more worried about many of these issues in a state with no/shitty safety nets, like Florida or Mississippi. This is one of those issues that I debate with myself whether it would be better to handle it on the state level or the federal level. On the one hand, when you leave it to the states, you end with with some Americans having better rights than others based on geography, but you also increase the chance that the population of states that pass a bill have a vested interest in actually making it work. On the other, theoretically a federal ruling would also come with some sort of standardized controls to alleviate the concerns, but that assumes the feds can actually handle that sort of thing and that's a pretty generous assumption these days.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[feotakahari]

My brother has made a similar argument, though not in religious terms. He's an EMT, so he has to deal with folks who're in really bad shape and clearly suffering, but are being kept alive because their families don't want to "kill Grandma." The way he sees it, these folks are being robbed of the right to die with dignity rather than slowly whimper their way to the grave.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

This would be why I'm such an advocate for people having living wills, so that if something happens where the only option is to be kept alive, they can express their wish not to be kept alive that way in writing.

Re: unpopular opinions//// euthanasia

[(Anonymous)]

Frankly, I think people are just too used to using God as an excuse to enforce what they believe. It's why pro-life protestors think it's a sin to kill one of God's innocent creations, but at the same time they give no fucks about crippling welfare programs that benefit children. Abortions kill babies! But free lunch programs for kids is teaching them to become welfare leeches!

Technology has advanced so far that every damn thing we do could be called "playing God". I'm healthy right now because of medication. Without that medication (which I will need for as long as I live), I will suffer and have only a very poor quality of life and a shortened life span. But nobody's slapping the insulin out of diabetics' hands and accusing them of playing God instead of dying a slow death or losing limbs due to nerve damage. Likewise, people aren't bombing chemo centers to prevent cancer patients from getting treatment.

It's highly selective, and not very rational.