[ SECRET POST #2921 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2921 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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06. [ SPOILERS for Legend of Korra ]



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08. [ WARNING for rape ]



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09. [ WARNING for incest ]

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Comments

[diet_poison]

I think the wank is/can be entertaining (I'm only peripherally paying attention got any links?) but I don't really *understand* the wank in this case.

Well, except for the Makorra/ship wars wank. I still think it's dumb but I see why people do it - it's just a matter of shouting your opinion at the other side, tearing them down (because that makes humans feel so good!) and gloating that your ship "won", so not a lot of actual facts involved.

But for the rest?
-they're bisexual (not only should you be able to figure this out on their own based on canon, but they confirmed it), and
-yes, it's canon, not just friends (they confirmed this too)

are people really still arguing about this????

[(Anonymous)]

People are, apparently, insanely committed to the idea if it being poorly written.

[diet_poison]

Ok but it's Bryke and not the first thing they've written badly. It's kind of beside the point?

But yeah that's also at least somewhat subjective so there's a lot of room to argue about it, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it was poorly written. But that doesn't make it any less canon. Everything about Makorra was terrible and awful and should never have happened, but that was still canon too.

Most people I know were elated that Korrasami was actually a thing but hated everything about the execution.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get the wank and the people complaining about it either. Really

Why are people so mad about it. I mean it's a moment at the very end just hand holding, which implies the beginning of the relationship and if you really really wanted you could ignore Word of God,and say they're really close friends.

Hell many people in the HP fandom just ignore the epilogue and it's easy enough. I don't get why some people have to keep harping on how Korrasmi is so shitty and bad and YOU'RE WRONG IF YOU LIKED IT, like some people on this comm have

(also to be fair, for those claiming it was a last minute asspull and was too quick or whatever consider this. Korra met Mako in the first or second ep (I forget) by ep 5 she was telling him "we were meant to be together" and soon after kissing him, and they were together by the end of the season. Whereas Korrasmi had two seasons of them hanging out together and getting close which built up to them holding hands and going on a trip together, So yeah.....that's why I laugh in mockery everytime I see "but it's an asspull" )

[fingalsanteater]

Yeah really. Korra was head over heels for Mako and they had their thing begin and end in the space of about 20 episodes. Korra and Asami were friends for four seasons, Asami seemed to be taking care of Korra when she was ill, Korra wrote exclusively to Asami because she felt she could share more things with her, they worked together to escape the desert, etc. It's easy to see how their friendship could have blossomed into a relationship. People claiming asspull have heterogoggles on.

[(Anonymous)]

Ugh I know right. If Asami had been a guy, I bet you a million bucks all the "omg it was such an asspull!!!!" whiners wouldn't utter a peep.

[(Anonymous)]

That's ridiculous. There'd still be cries of asspull because Makorra shippers would still be a thing even if Asami was a dude from the start. It'd probably be worse because then Makorra probably wouldn't have been the disaster it was without the love triangle.

(Unless it was Korra everyone was fighting over instead of Mako. And then Korra would've been the giant asshole. Yeesh. I'm glad Asami wasn't a guy.)

I hate the "if this character was a different gender then!!!" argument.

[diet_poison]

It has some truth, though. I don't think ALL the dissenters would be singing a different tune, there'd still be ship wars, but you would NOT be seeing this "there was no buildup!" from such a large number of people. I mostly say this because there is SO MUCH "look, they're just good friends!" and it sounds like they're bending over backwards to convince themselves that they're no icky gayness in that last scene...but if a guy and a girl were going on a vacay together HOLDING HANDS with romantic music playing, the outrage would be more along the lines of traditional ship wars ("he's better! no he is!") and you'd hear none of this "oh they're just friends!" bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

except for it's completely relevant in a world where lesbians and women in gay relationships are talked down to and not even acknowledged as being in "real" relationships. gay male characters may receive outright homophobia, but lesbians receive a different kind of stigma where people don't even acknowledge they're in a real relationship. it happens in fandom and it happens irl– see: any celebrity in a lesbian relationship out with their girlfriend and being labelled a celeb and "her galpal." lesbians are not taken seriously, and their relationships are not given any shred of legitimacy. it's totally relevant that the number of people bending over backwards to say they are "just friends!!!" would be a LOT lesser were they a male and female character instead, because culturally we're taught to read heterosexual interactions into everything, and downplay anything else.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually I think you'll find that those people are fans of slash and so there's no way it has anything to do with the fact that they were both women

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine if Asami had been a dude, people would be pissed because it ruined Mako/Dudesami. On top of angry Mako/Korra shippers.

Gotta love them shipwars.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a pessimist and tbh I doubt Bryke would have felt safe enough to throw it in last minute if Korrasami wasn't the juggernaut ship in fandom. They pretty much pulled a JK Rowling.

I can't blame anyone for never believing it was going to happen, or even never seeing any of the supposed subtext. Plenty of (not straight) women have criticized the way Korrasami was handled even if they're happy it's canon. Makorra fans are just loudly throwing their tantrums and don't want to acknowledge that Makorra was so bad that the show tanked the ship the rest of the series.

Korrasami had the opposite problem of Makorra. Instead of hitting you in the face with it, it was barely there at all until the last second, and even then it could be argued there was nothing romantic if Bryke hadn't declared it canon.

[(Anonymous)]

da

What ship(s) did Rowling put in HP because they were overwhelmingly popular?

[(Anonymous)]

na

I don't get it either. Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione were set up pretty early in the series and the others got married to random people unless there's someone I'm forgetting atm

[(Anonymous)]

I think AYRT was referring to the way Rowling revealed that Dumbledore was gay only after the series ended.

[(Anonymous)]

da

tbh I never really understood the outrage over that either. It seemed pretty obvious that Dumbledore was crushing on Grindelwald

[(Anonymous)]

While I was never outraged, I absolutely see why people would be annoyed that it wasn't straight up acknowledged in the canon. Just because you saw the subtext doesn't mean everyone else did, especially people who need the representation. Jk Rowling saying it was totally canon years later doesn't cut it. Neither does Bryke throwing in a subtle Korrasami scene at literally the very end and claiming it was there all along and it's not their fault if you didn't see it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't wear slash goggles at all. However, the Grindelwald/Dumbledore thing was heavily, HEAVILY implied. Dumbledore was practically writing love ballads to the guy.

[hwc]

Dude, when Deathly Hallows first came out people were harping on it being so shitty and bad and YOU'RE WRONG IF YOU LIKED IT too. The mailings lists and HP comms I were on exploded with wank about the epilogue (and exploded again when JKR said Dumbledore was gay). Fandom always loses its head at first; I don't watch LoK and have no horse in this race, but people wanking about ships they don't like isn't exactly new.

[sachiko_san]

But I don't ship anything for the show? I thought Makorra was badly executed and brought down the quality of season 1. I've mentioned it several times I don't ship anything in the show before as well.

Of course I kinda wish Nick had given Bryke a big enough budget to hire writers who knew what they were doing (season 3 is the best season, even if I think Amon was best villain). That's why AtLA was great after all.