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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-04 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2923 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2923 ⌋

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fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-01-04 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Just reading her number 1 let's me know she has no fucking idea what she is talking about. Not only that, she contradicts herself within the paragraph. America is absolutely not accepting of fat people. The fact that our lifestyle lends itself to obesity is a separate issue having nothing to do with acceptance.

She follows up this "article" with a whiny post claiming she's not concern trolling, which she was called out on. She's totally concern trolling by posting an article criticizing something she has no knowledge of while packaging it as an attempt to "understand." She wasn't trying to understand shit. She just wanted to post about how the fat-acceptance movement makes her uncomfortable and how she disagree with things that she doesn't even understand.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Not trying to start anything, but seriously. American food has to be at least part of the reason why obesity is such an issue. I don't know whether it's the ingredients or the portion sizes, but everytime I go to America the weight starts piling on.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's absolutely true but it doesn't really go to the point at hand

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
No I guess not, sorry. Just thinking aloud in a way.

Really, I don't know what to say. Encouraging people to be healthy is good but fat shaming is counter productive. Besides, it's not really the place of some random person on the internet to tell someone else what to do with their body <-- that goes for both sides of the argument.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Really, I don't know what to say. Encouraging people to be healthy is good but fat shaming is counter productive. Besides, it's not really the place of some random person on the internet to tell someone else what to do with their body <-- that goes for both sides of the argument.

Everything you said here.
fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-01-04 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Both, tbh.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a little messed up, because it normalizes overeating and eating bad food for an entire nation. :/

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's the portion sizes. I used to work for the US branch of a Japanese company, and every time officials from the Japanese side would come over here, they would be horrified at how huge are portions are. We eat way too much here in America.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? It's because most of our food isn't actually filling. I eat huge portion sizes because I'm hungry. If I eat only small portion sizes, then I'm eating again in half an hour.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
What the heck are you eating, nothing but vegetables or something?

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-06 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
That may be true for you, but several people from my home country who've visited yours noted that your medium McDonald's portions equals our large ones. And also? The larger portions were true for restaurants and non-fast food places as well.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-07 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
No, you've created a self-perpetuating cycle for yourself. The larger the portions you eat a regular basis are, the more food you need to feel full because you've trained your body to expect (and therefore want) large amounts of food. I guarantee that if you cut back portion sizes and stick to it, you'll end up being satisfied with smaller amounts of food after a while.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of disagree with you regarding your first point. Have you ever been to any European nation or Asian nation (France, Italy, South Korea, Japan, etc.)? They are MUCH less accepting of being overweight than America.

I'm 5'2" and 125 pounds (not fat but by no means skinny) and people South Korea and Japan flat out just told me that I was too fat and needed to lose weight.

Contrast that to America, where it's considered extremely impolite to bring up someone's weight and where we have all a manner of inventions and services that cater to the overweight.

I'm not saying America is wrong to do this, just that I can't agree with you that America isn't accepting of fat people. Compared to the rest of the developed world, we are.
fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-01-04 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because other places are less accepting, doesn't make America more accepting. The population at large, maybe, to an extent, because a lot of people are overweight. But overweight people still make life difficult for other overweight people by bullying, etc. We are still conditioned by advertising, Hollywood, etc. to find thinness attractive and good and fatness unattractive and bad.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It may not make them flat-out accepting, but if A is less accepting than B, that does make B more accepting than A. That's how the language works.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe fingals meant it in the sense that it doesn't make America more accepting than America actually is. Like, other nations being less accepting does not actually increase the amount of acceptance in America.

But yea, the English language is a tricky devil.
fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-01-05 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this exactly. America may be more accepting in comparison to other countries, but that doesn't mean that America is accepting of fat people as the author of the article attempts to suppose.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. Did a double-take at that comment.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-04 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Korea is messed up though. Their attitude to beauty is unhealthy. See: widely documented evidence of Korea's plastic surgery addiction. It makes America look almost sane.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if saying "other countries are worse" is really a good argument for American being accepting. That's like saying America is very accepting of gay people because we don't sentence people to death for being gay. Sure, that's a good thing, but it doesn't make America extra-accepting and the discrimination gay people face doesn't suddenly disappear.