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[ SECRET POST #2925 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2925 ⌋

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03. http://i.imgur.com/oiNBzPC.jpg

I wonder who on here *is* a goat. Come on, admit it!

MAAAAAAAAA

NEEEEIIIIIIGH

woof woof

yiff

Meooowwww

All of these goats are retarded.

All of these goats are multi-lingual.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-01-07 00:17 (UTC) - Expand

Well, I DO have a regular anon on my tumblr I call Goat!Anon, on account of them always referencing goats somehow in their asks.

But I don't think Goat!Anon is truly a goat.

OR ARE THEY?

DUM DUM DUM

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lb_lee - 2015-01-07 00:48 (UTC) - Expand

what does the goat say

Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!

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kallanda_lee - 2015-01-07 00:40 (UTC) - Expand

Not meheheheheheheh. *bleats for ironic reasons*

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(Anonymous) - 2015-01-07 04:46 (UTC) - Expand

OP is lying, they're totes a goat.

I'm not, but my best friend is.

Yeah I find f/f fit appeals to me more than anything else for similar reasons

I think it's more a quirk of how fanfiction gets written than anything else

Honestly, I'm kind of the opposite. When I ship m/m it's usually because I find the relationship between the male characters, although non-romantic, to be better developed and more meaningful than that between a male character and his love interest. With male characters, their bonds will often be developed and they'll often make it a point to show them sacrificing for each other or realizing how much they mean to one another.

With quite a few canon m/f pairs, I think the authors/writers take it for granted that the audience will be into them just because they're a romance and don't spend nearly enough time setting up or developing the pairing. IMO, of course.

I fear (suspect) my like for slash might be partly because of the h/c aspect. While I CAN like h/c in het parings, I'm far, far more particular about how it can play out there.

Whereas I am not into slash because, despite often being attracted to male characters, I am nowhere near as interested in them as I am in female characters.

And tbh, I didn't realize this until just now. For a while, I've been like, "but why am I not into slash?" I suppose I owe you my thanks, OP.

You know, I just realized that if someone said the opposite, that they weren't nearly as interested in female characters as male characters, they would be labeled sexist/misogynistic.

Not saying you are or anything, but this is something I find rather frustrating about fandom.

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(Anonymous) - 2015-01-07 07:13 (UTC) - Expand

Actually, this really bugs me, what you describe, OP!

Like, I'm gay. I like guys. Naturally, when I read romance, I usually want it to be about two guys. (Though for the past year or two, the only ship that has really been of interest to me is two girls. Oops!)

But it actually really bothers me that men, in fiction and out, are often only allowed to express things like emotional pain or fear in the context of same-sex relationships. That just has always felt kinda sad to me, you know; that's not a lesson I would want, say, my straight little brother to learn.

I dunno. I just want guys to feel okay crying and being upset with their girlfriends (or their platonic friends!) too.

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It seems like people are more tolerant of men not sticking to gender roles in a same-sex relationship. Maybe it's because of stereotypes about gay men being feminine (or straight men always being masculine - I've noticed that many people will have no problem accepting that a gay man can be masculine, but will refuse to believe that a feminine man can be straight). Or maybe they think one person in a relationship always has to be "the man" so a guy can be less masculine (not that I think showing emotion is necessarily unmasculine) with another guy but not with a girl. And sometimes I wonder if it's because it's okay for a man to see their partner's vulnerable side, but if you're a woman, your partner is supposed to be tough and dominating and protect you (and possibly keep you in line :/ ) so you can't be allowed to see any "weakness."

Anyway, I really hate the idea that it's okay for a guy to be emotional or not fit gender stereotypes in a same sex relationship, but has to be Manly McTestosterone with a woman.

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diet_poison - 2015-01-07 04:57 (UTC) - Expand

My favourite slash relationships in fic are where neither side are very good at communicating their feelings and a hundred hilarious misunderstandings occur. That's a lot more plausible in a slash relationship, exactly for the standard conventions that say men aren't good at expressing emotions. When there's a woman involved, we expect her to be a lot more emotionally literate.

In real life, however, I'm the opposite. I like to be with men who are open with their emotions and don't mind showing them. I'm always baffled by those who say they can't stand men crying. What, all men, under every circumstance? I can't imagine living like that.

So perhaps if you see it as a literary convention or plot device rather than something that really exists it might be easier. In real life, I've not noticed that women are more emotionally literate than men. Some of the most emotionally repressed people I know are women.

Similarly, most het fiction is written with men as the dominant partner, while that's about the opposite to what I see in real life. It's just fantasy. A very popular fantasy that baffles me, but there you go.

In fic, I like my emotionally repressed guy slash. It's probably why I'm not big into hurt/comfort fic between two men either. It doesn't have anything to do with real life. I'd be appalled at the thought of any of the gay couples I really know being as screwed up as the slash couples I write.

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lb_lee - 2015-01-07 18:41 (UTC) - Expand

Yes and I 100% agree with you. Though, I'm a queer chick (like, 75% hetero), and in every relationship with guys I've been in, my boyfriends has at times wanted nothing more than for me to cuddle them like babies and tell them everything will be alright. Sadly this is a dynamic I never see happen anywhere to males because in straight fanfic has to be so alpha and in slash fanfic, at least one of the canon characters has to be emotionally repressed that it seems out of character for him to participate.

It honestly makes me worry a little about the fanfiction writers and their love lives, their idea of how guys behave seem so based on media, and that can't possibly be healthy for anyone...