[ SECRET POST #2944 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2944 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen the movie but I don't, in principle, think there's anything wrong with liking a bit of fictional-world radical revolutionary violence

however, I know that everyone here disagrees with me, so

[(Anonymous)]

It's not radical revolutionary violence. She frames and murders innocent people.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's easy as hell, and not necessarily wrong, to frame it that way, though.

I mean, I think that's generally the case for things of this nature, although I acknowledge it is possible that there is some specific feature of Gone Girl that makes it impossible.

[insanenoodlyguy]

We all have our interpretations, but that one's a big fucking stretch anon.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. Maybe.

That's definitely the way in which I've seen people talk about her on here, and it seems unlikely that it would be wildly invalid. And the great thing is it still works even if the character is flawed and fucked-up.

[insanenoodlyguy]

You are admitting you haven't watched it, so I don't really think I can do much more then offer you a differing opinion. I disagree with these other interpretations obviously. If your interested in the character, why not watch it?

[(Anonymous)]

Because it seems kind of dour and bad

I talked more about what I think in the post below if you care (not that you really particularly should, it's all good)

[(Anonymous)]

is it? the title *is* a commentary on that very question. "Gone" Girl <- "Go" Girl... and what if she *did* really "go"?

[(Anonymous)]

Then tell me how it's right.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's right. I think it's (probably) valid.

[(Anonymous)]

Then tell me how.

[(Anonymous)]

If it is acceptable to interpret the character's actions and feelings as, in any way, a reaction to an experience that is specifically a result of her gender, and her victims as in any way standing in for broader social conditions, then it is acceptable to understand the film as being about radical violence.

And this seems to be a reasonably common interpretation, at the very least.

[sarillia]

Vigilante justice is often murdering people because they've decided these people don't deserve their right to due process and that the laws against capital punishment don't matter, and it's still very popular because it satisfies people in some way.

[(Anonymous)]

The Punisher has a LOT of fans, for exactly that reason.

[(Anonymous)]

There's not a whole lot radical and revolutionary about a bored, spoiled and pissed off little rich girl deciding to take revenge on innocent people (or certainly people who haven't done anything above the norm for other bored and priviledged people) for the way her mommy and daddy didn't pay her enough attention.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the character. But framing her as anything radical is ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

well i mean i would assume that any person who liked the character would completely disagree with your description of the character, so i am going to go ahead and assume that there's some wiggle room for interpretation here

[(Anonymous)]

Or maybe watch/read and then come back with your assumptions?

I don't really think it's possible to comment constructively on something you know nothing about.

[(Anonymous)]

My comment is mostly coming from my opinions on radical violence in media. Because I pretty much think the only requirements for something to be appreciated in that lens is

1) Is there violence?
2) Is it directed against some form of oppression?

As long as those two things are met, it's possible to interpret it in that light IMO. And it gets easier the less the violence is explicitly seen as justified and morally acceptable within the code of society, and the more extreme and radical it is.

So it's more that I can't really figure what point you're going to get at where it can't be considered radical violence. Certainly, the fact that the character comes from money is something that seems mind-bogglingly irrelevant.

[(Anonymous)]

2) Is it directed against some form of oppression?

If it's innocent people, how is 2) true, aside from the victims happening to be men? That's like praising Joker for being feminist because he killed men, therefore fought oppression.

[(Anonymous)]

Ikr? Scary how some people think.

[kallanda_lee]

But, she isn't oppressed? Unless you think being cheated on is oppression. She's quite privileged, in fact (partly yes, because she comes from money).

[(Anonymous)]

"I HAVE OPINIONS!!

I know nothing whatsoever about the content or the context of the thing I'm talking about right now, but I HAVE OPINIONS therefore I'm awesome and clearly correct!"

[kallanda_lee]

Not necessarily -I think she's fascinating, but I still think she's spoiled and bored - though I do believe her parents were sort of nuts as well and that influenced her childhood.

[blitzwing]

You just described Loki LOL.

[(Anonymous)]

You're not wrong.