[ SECRET POST #2945 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2945 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Not a Harem Heaven, It's a Yandere Hell]


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03.
[Game of Thrones]


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04.
[In the Flesh]


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05.
[Hudson Leick as Callisto in Xena, Warrior Princess]


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06.
[Plebcomics]


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07.
[Great British Bake Off]


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08.
[Captain America: The First Avenger]


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09.
[Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE!]


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10.
[Queen]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #421.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[lb_lee]

Wait, wait. So she makes comics calling out white people acting like the authorities on racism... and gets accused of being racist? What?

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/plebcomics

[lb_lee]

Aw man. I feel bad for her. What a shitty thing to happen.

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, I was willing to give the comic used in the secret the benefit of the doubt, but those are the stupidest freaking straw man comics I have ever seen.

[(Anonymous)]

Only they were not strawman comics, they were based on actual conversations she had with the crazies and she sourced every single one under the related comics.
But it's always strawmen when others do it.

[comradesmiler]

Also just general SJW hypocrisy, like transtrenders and manspreading.

[(Anonymous)]

"Transtrenders."

Never heard that term before, but it's perfect.

[comradesmiler]

I actually find that they're the most vitriolic of SJW's.

[lb_lee]

I admit to having a real problem with the concept of 'transtrending,' which I have been hearing claims of for the past ten years, but I also don't want to derail a thread about it, so let's just say I'm glad I'm not that active on tumblr.

[(Anonymous)]

Manspreading?
that term is making me think that tumblr activism has taken cannibalistic turns. O_O

[(Anonymous)]

ngl, my brain also went somewhere I'm guessing is very different to the actual meaning.

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't a call-out on white people, it's an endorsement for white people to stop engaging in anti-racist activism.

[(Anonymous)]

...wait, THAT'S what you get out of that comic?

Can you even read?

DA

[(Anonymous)]

It's called reading between the lines. The idea is to make white people think that just talking about racism makes them look like the white person in the comic. To make them think anything they say about racism is "speaking over POC" so they'll stop speaking up at all.

DDA

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's arguably both.

You could argue it's a reaction to the kind of SJW that insists on speaking for minorities about how something is so racist or appropriative or whatnot and then invalidating their disagreement by telling them they have "internalized prejudice" (because disagreement is apparently just not allowed). As an Asian-American who occasionally gets lectured by non-Asians that such-and-such movie totally fell into the trap of confusing two Asian countries for each other (when it didn't) or that people wearing clothing from my culture is appropriation (when it's not) or that what I consider mildly cringeworthy behavior in a foreign country is actually despicable and racist as fuck and worthy of this person being publicly shamed forever... I TOTALLY sympathize with this anti-SJW sentiment and have felt these feelings.

However, it's also arguably tied to the whole #NotYourShield movement within the Gamergate movement, which is about having women/minorities step up to say how the gaming world is NOT hostile or exclusionary towards women/minorities. From this comic you can either draw the conclusion that the point is "white people need to check themselves" OR that the point is that the existence of a single minority person who disagrees with race criticism INVALIDATES that criticism because inevitably the side that agrees with that race criticism contains white people (actually, is predominantly white because that's what the U.S. is), which means the relationship depicted in the comic is guaranteed to come into play (white people trying to talk over a disagreeing minority). If you agree this dynamic is undesirable, and they show the existence of a POC who disagrees with some social justice platform, then they show that the social justice platform as a whole is undesirable and has no leg to stand on. So basically, the point of the comic could be seen as being anti-SJ as a whole, not just anti-SJW.

[lb_lee]

Now I'm just kinda perplexed and confused. There's a way to be involved in an activist struggle that isn't your own, without being a venal cocksore about it.

--Rogan

[kallanda_lee]

I see you managed to stay blissfully clear or that type of SJW.

I can only say you probably want to keep it that way.

[lb_lee]

You are on the ball with that, for sure. I have a limited amount of energy to spare on things, and I pretty much bailed on tumblr after someone I actually liked claimed that leaving abusive people was a 'social privilege.'

I became homeless leaving abusive people in my past. So did other people I know. I don't think we were 'privileged' for that.

--Rogan

[kallanda_lee]

From the parts of story from you that i heard, I certainly wouldn't call you "privileged".

And I've seen some of this bs with my own eyes. like, white chicks calling out black/desi/latina girls for being "racist" for disagreeing with their nonsense opinions. It's baffling.

[(Anonymous)]

Part of the GamerGate tactics were to make sockpuppet accounts and claim to be women and POC women who would cry valiantly that gamer guys were all gentlemen and saints and they, as totally real life women, had never been treated with anything but respect and tenderness. The very idea of the 'evil neckbeard gamer' was in fact a lie entirely invented by evil feminazis out to destroy gamer culture and bully them into submission.

Strangely, even with plenty of screencaps of big GG players bragging about their sockpuppets, some people believed them to be real women who knew the truth. And so that comic was one of the many standing up for those poor poor sockpuppets.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you talking about twitter or tumblr? Because I followed a ton of people on tumblr who only started being anti-GG when it started coming up; if they were socks, they'd have to be psychic sockpuppets.

[lb_lee]

Oh yeah, I knew about those GG tactics. From everything I saw, they were disingenuous little trolls. I used to be a member of a site that had a post showing that a lot of those Twitter accounts actually used stock photos for their icons. So brave, so radical.

What really baffles me is, if they did... SO WHAT? Just because you have a certain identity label doesn't mean you can't be WRONG. Sure, there are probably some women who were treated wonderfully by the gamers around them... but that doesn't magically erase the women who were treated BADLY.

I don't know why I'm trying to make sense of this when obviously there is no sense to be had.

--Rogan

[blitzwing]

And so that comic was one of the many standing up for those poor poor sockpuppets.

That comic pre-dates Gamergate, iirc.

[(Anonymous)]

But what people like you fail to see is that it's not black and white. Keep pretending that all the shit going on in anti-GG circles is 100 % just evil GGers with sockpuppets and that all anti-GGers are little saints that can do no wrong and you are just as delusional as the GGers who seriously believe GG is only about the valiant affort to call out lacking integrity in gaming journalism. Both sides have equal amounts of vicious assholes.

And as the other anon said: This comic has nothing at all to do with GG.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Correction: blitzwing, not another anon said it.