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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-20 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2998 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree mostly, and I think the hate for "white cock ships" is just the negative pushback from well-intentioned discussions about sexism and racism. Like people read something about how there is little diversity in media due to xyz reasons, and then respond with "no diversity? That's because of THOSE EVIL WHITE COCKS." Breaking one down to build up another is shitty but not new behavior.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
lol wtf fandom. srsly wtf.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Evil White Cocks shoud be a band name.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
True and well said.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
when i think of white dude ships, i specifically think of canons where there's just as much support/chemistry, if not more, for the interracial ship as the white guy ship, yet it gets ignored in favor for pairing two white guys together. see psych and scrubs fandoms.

like, i know people are gonna ship what they're going to ship, but that does get frustrating to see it happen again and again.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And Numb3rs, at least from what I saw of the fandom anyway.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I was so surprised to discover the popular ship on psych wasn't te interracial main duo. I never saw much if the show, but I assumed it was a buddy cop kind of format (but with private investigators) and naturaly you'd ship the two leads.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, so JD/Turk wasn't the main slash ship for Scrubs???

But... how?? That thing sailed itself!

My faith in the universe is broken.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, unrelated but doesn't even have to be an interracial relationship for people to get vitriolic about this sort of stuff in fandom. There used to be so many SJWs in the Korra fandom who bullied artists for drawing Korra "too light" and white cosplayers for daring to cosplay a dark skinned character.

Thankfully that died down a bit after Mike (or Bryan? Can't remember which) schooled some particularly nasty SJWs on art theory. Although now there are people complaining that writing/drawing Korra in kinky situations with Asami is gross and degrading.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
well, for korra fandom i thought it was just against one particular fan artist who drew some blatantly racist korrasami stuff with korra as this savage slave owned by asami.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH I'm off put by porny Korrasami because I still view LOK as primarily a kids show. Kissing, cuddling, dates all A+... but any porn of kids shows doesn't sit well with me. I just keep my mouth shut... even tho I'm a queer woman because fandom is nuts.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-03-21 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Lol those cosplay shaming posts really bugged me when they came up. You could say those were some.................dark days :ua

(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even ship many whitedude slash ships (into asian media mostly) but jesus I am so sick of the fandom police. IDK what whining about whitecock is supposed to accomplish, people are gonna write/draw/discuss what they're interested in, no need to try to make them feel guilty about it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Note that this:

http://fandomshatepoc.tumblr.com/post/113925399105/why-do-white-fan-girls-find-it-so-hard-to-get#tumblr_notes

http://fandomshatepoc.tumblr.com/post/113860700960/modern-merlin-au-guinevere-pendragon-for#tumblr_notes

is the kind of shit I'm talking about.

I completely understand the frustration when people invade tags with negativity or make rude/disgusting comments on appearances. But HOLY SHIT does stuff like this make interracial shipping painful as hell.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Like one of the commenters said above, there's a kernel of valid criticism in there. It is a little frustrating when one ship that by all means should be the fandom darling but gets ignored seemingly because one half of the pair is a minority.
However, the poster here is clearly just using that as a thinly veiled excuses used to rage on people who don't share their OTPs

There's always been folks who latch on to this sort of language to justify why someone else's ship is so, so wrong and gross and how it's totally because of legitimate social issues reasons and not because I'm annoyed that my ship isn't as popular or canon as I think it should be.
Back then it was "Katara/Aang is pedophilia!" and "Ron/Hermione is abusive!". Just roll your eyes, ignore it, add the blog to your blacklist, and keep on shipping what you love.

2. Ugh they're so hot. Sorry what were we talking abut again?

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's always been the opposite for me. I've seen some REALLY obnoxious and gross Steve/Tony and Thor/Loki shippers, but almost all of the Sam/Steve shippers have been usually pretty cool and lax. Idk maybe it's different for each fandom.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
First post has a point but the second one is shit and uncalled for!
Op probably doesn't make edits and can't use photoshop otherwise they'd know the difference between a psd coloring making the lights more obvious and a psd coloring whitewashing poc. Also maybe their pc screen is the problem because here on mine the color of the actress skin doesn't look darker in the pictures they put.

Brown to light skinned black actresses are already whiutewashed by the lights in photoshoots and the flashes on the red carpet pictures, so when people try to make a nice edit out of these pictures few psds will work.


(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Makes me think of that time some Iachabbie shippers in Sleepy Hollow went off on this one fanart that had Abbie carrying Ichabod.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
IA. In most recent years I've shipped two pairings both from the same fandom, one was two white dudes, the other interracial. The former was very much live and let live, just focus on the ship. The interracial one frequently bashes on other ships, every conversation winds up being about race, etc. I agree (talking about) representation is important, but sometimes I just want to squee, man. I want to push two characters together and make them kiss or have sex. One of them happens to be black, doesn't mean I want to ignore the other one in discussions. Shipping them isn't some moral decision either, I just like them together.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Urg god this is something that annoys me so much. With music it's also something you see all the fucking time. If someone like lady gaga or macklemore writes a song being progressive it has to be analysed and scrutinised and criticised for every single thing that doesn't confirm to the part line. But lil wayne writes songs called as long as these bitches love me and no one writes a think piece. It just makes not giving a shit seem so much easier.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
RE: "pastel" palettes

It's possible to make a cute pastel gifset without sucking all the color out of people's skin. It takes a bit more work than just slapping on a psd, but it's not some impossible task. If a gif maker says that they have to remove all the reds/yellows from a scene in order to make it cute/soft/pretty/pastel, they're full of shit.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Text: I don’t get why big “white men” slash ships seem to have such a bad reputation. I’ve honestly never met more fun and accepting shippers in my life. There’s no “wrong” way to ship it and no guide to the “proper” method of shipping. It’s just a community that takes two characters and writes about their interactions because we love them.

Are there annoying ones who demand that it be canon or bash canon love interests? Yes, but there’s shippers like that in every fandom (see Harmonians, Zutarians, Cleris/Cloti shippers, etc.). That’s not unique to slash.

On the contrary, though, I had to leave an interracial ship’s fandom because the shippers were horrible -> tearing apart fic for “wrong” or “incorrect” characterization (i.e. giving the characters flaws) or humiliating fan-artists or gif makers because skin tone was “wrong” or too light (even if the gif-maker had a history of using pastel palette). Just…who treats their FRIENDS that way? Help them, don’t humiliate them…

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
My current OTP for my wee little fandom is an interracial ship. There's currently a person on twitter (instead of Tumblr, how weird?) that goes to great lengths to hate on the ship because of the white guy.

it's just. I don't know.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Big white cocks are the most beautiful cocks ever.