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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-20 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2998 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-20 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I had never thought about this trend but you're right. It's insulting, stereotypical and annoying.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Image: screen cap from Bob’s Burgers, of the characters up to their necks in the water, beside a pier

Text: I love that Bob was allowed to say that he loved the kids more than Linda. (Well, actually he said that he loved her “almost as much” as he loved the kids.) I’m getting tired of the standard “Mom loves the kids more than she loves Dad. Dad loves Mom more than he loves the kids” TV show line. It’s an insult to good fathers everywhere.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I always like a character more if they put their kids as higher priority than their spouse. A character choosing their spouse over their kid is the fastest way to make me hate that character.

Like, ideally, there wouldn't have to be a choice. But if it really did come down to "you can only save one", you better pick the damn kid. And if your spouse is a good parent, they would never forgive you for picking them over their child anyway.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you're so right about that! How have I never even noticed it before?

It's... kind of shitty that Dads are expected to not care as much about their kids. WTF. Everyone deserves parents who love them and care about them. :(

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I remember when the Silent Hill film came out, the director outright explained the two leads motivations as; "Mum's priority is saving the child, the husband's priority is his wife - as it should be." I'm glad he got a lot of flack for that.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
ewwwwwww.

also that's really shallow characterisation.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

The worst was that he changed the main character's gender solely because he didn't think people would sympathize with a father looking for his child. Just... what? smh

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like the "dads are useless idiots" stereotype - untrue and not helpful for anyone.

As a woman, I find it particulaly annoying in advertizing. "Buy out laundry detergent because your husband is an idiot and you are the only one in the household smart enough to understand our detergent is superior." Hey, fuck you.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
goofy cartoon and all, bob's burgers is honestly one of the best portrayals of a family i've seen on tv.

I think quantifying love is always a losing proposition.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Are the amounts of love you have for two different people unequal? Maybe. Is the love you have for any one person different from the love you have for another and therefore difficult to compare? For me, yes. Would I prioritize people that I love over other people that I love in dire circumstances? Probably, but I feel like that would depend on a lot of factors - vulnerability, capability, accessibility, etc.
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Re: I think quantifying love is always a losing proposition.

[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2015-03-21 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
...Man, this secret and thread are just further proof that I really should never have children. I can imagine having them, and loving them, but there's just no way that I could love them more than my spouse. That just seems terrible to me. :/

[personal profile] alenxa 2015-03-22 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
There isn't any "supposed to" about loving members of your created family beyond simply loving them. If you love your spouse with the fire of 1000 suns and your kids with the fire of 999, that doesn't make you horrible. Neither does having it happen the other way around make you superior or even just normal. What matters is that you love everyone as much as you can, and then keep going past that. (And if you can't, figure out why and do something about it.)

(Anonymous) 2015-03-21 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
my parents definitely loved each other more than me.
they also loved my sister more than me.